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Julie Kelly: Abolish the FBI
twitter ^ | Oct 1 | Julie Kelly

Posted on 10/01/2021 3:16:47 AM PDT by RandFan

@julie_kelly2

Not a day goes by that the FBI isn’t a national disgrace. Abolishing this agency and starting from scratch should be a pledge made by every single Republican Congressional/Senate candidate next year.

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It's great to see prominent people on the right calling for the FBI to be abolished.

I completely agree! :-)

1 posted on 10/01/2021 3:16:47 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

I agree, it’s too far gone. Nobody trusts them.


2 posted on 10/01/2021 3:18:54 AM PDT by McGavin999 (To shut down the border tell the administration the cartel is smuggling Ivermectin )
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To: McGavin999

They have gone rogue as they say


3 posted on 10/01/2021 3:22:43 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

FIB = terrorist & criminal organization


4 posted on 10/01/2021 3:29:35 AM PDT by newfreep (“Leftism, under all of its brand names, is a severe, violent & evil mental disorder.”)
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To: RandFan

Don’t know who Julie Kelly is, but I agree totally.

It will save the country.

And it is all due to the Director of the FBI, who is THE most corrupt of all the corrupt individuals in government

CHRISTOPHER WRAY.


5 posted on 10/01/2021 3:34:43 AM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: RandFan
The solution to this is to dismantle the FBI as we know it today and replace it with a decentralized investigative body organized by the states.

I'm reposting my idea from March 5, 2018 (reformatted for easier reading):


As I was reading this article (As D.C. Corruption Mounts, Here’s How The American People Can Get Justice), I was beginning to think of a solution that was close to where the author ended up.

What if the FBI were disbanded as a federal agency, and replaced by a different organization that was populated by the states themselves?

  1. Each state would delegate a number of investigators to serve at the pleasure of their home state, and this body would become a decentralized federal investigative bureau, managed by the states.
  2. As is with the militia, the Constitution provides for calling up the militias for national service, but the officers are selected by the states.
    • It isn't a stretch to declare that state militias have investigators as a component of a military police, perhaps made up of local police department detectives who are also in the state national guard reserves.
    • Use the militia clause in the Constitution to call up the state militias' investigative arms for federal service, with state appointed officers.
    • Each state can create a branch of their militia as MPs, or detectives. These people would report to militia officers appointed within each state, and then these militia branches (officers and detectives) would be called up at the request the Commander-In-Chief and approval by Congress (Article I Section 8: "to provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions,") to serve a national priority such as investigating a particular federal crime, under the authority of state officers, not federal bureaucrats.
    • The state officers will report directly to the Commander-In-Chief (Article II Section II: "The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States").
  3. Once the investigation is complete, the investigating team is released back to the states.
    • If a crime occurred in one state, then the militia police from another state can be called up to investigate.
    • Several investigations across several states can operate in parallel, if needed.

Root cause analyses looks for systemic causes of failures, not behavioral causes.

  1. Part of that review is identifying the protective systems that were in place to prevent what happened from happening, and to brainstorm additional protective systems to catch whatever still slipped through.
  2. Management enforcement of process compliance with consequences for failure to comply is a protective system.
    • Lax management enforcement of process compliance might be a systemic cause if the fix were to reinforce the importance of process compliance and put consequences on management for lack of process discipline.
    • However, in the recent examples of FBI failure, management was not lax in oversight, they were also complicit actors in avoiding the process. This is still behavioral, so the systemic root cause is not yet found.
    • I'm going to suggest that the systemic root cause of the recent FBI disfunction is the "independent" nature of the FBI itself.
      • This was magnified by the behavioral causes that top management felt they were unaccountable to anyone;
      • that a single ideological mindset became established through years of political appointments that controlled the hiring practices of lower-level staff;
      • that using management reinforcement to correct the root cause was ineffective given that management was a part of the problem, if not leading the effort.
  3. Therefore, we must look to other protective systems for corrections.
    • One protective system is the Inspector General. While this seems to be working now, in hindsight it doesn't seem to have been effective at the time the actions were taking place.
      • When the bad actors are the top management itself in a department, an IG is too easily bypassed. Therefore, a new protective system must be put in place.
  4. My proposed corrective system is to replace a federal-centric FBI with a state-centric investigative agency.
    • This agency would have distributed leadership, since by following the militia model in the Constitution, the "officers" would be selected by the states and would be subject to recall at the whim of the home state.
    • A single monolithic mindset cannot become entrenched, since concerned states can replace their officers at any time.
    • I suggested attaching this investigative militia to the Commander-In-Chief directly on a case-by-case basis, with some provision for a senior officer hierarchy to manage separate state contingents.
    • Since Congress has the authority to call up the militia, but the President is the Commander-In-Chief of the militia, there is a check-and-balance already in place.
      • If a state investigative team finds evidence of a crime, the President can refer charges to the Department of Justice for further prosecutorial action.
      • There would be no need for a Special Prosecutor, as the investigative arm of the called up militia units can do this.
      • The Department of Justice can aid the investigations with grand juries, and criminal referrals would be passed along to the Department of Justice for action.
    • The President can then release the militia units back to the states, preventing a runaway special prosecutor from expanding the scope of the investigation.
    • "Process crimes," such as lying to the FBI, would go away as an especially nefarious tool of an over-zealous prosecutor.

A decentralized national investigative structure, overseen by the states but controlled by the commander-in-chief on a case-by-case basis, may be the best way to restore confidence that such an agency is not corrupted by national party bloc interests.

-PJ

6 posted on 10/01/2021 3:36:32 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: RandFan

Abolish it.

Raze the building.

And salt the earth it sat upon.


7 posted on 10/01/2021 3:44:53 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: RandFan

They’ve proven so corrupt and dishonest in the last 4 years!


8 posted on 10/01/2021 4:22:34 AM PDT by high info voter
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To: Political Junkie Too

Terrific idea PJ and gives us a blueprint for reform.

Thank you.


9 posted on 10/01/2021 4:46:55 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: Maris Crane

She is a conservative writer/journalist. Perhaps not very well known granted but I’m still pleased to hear this sentiment.


10 posted on 10/01/2021 4:48:03 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: Maris Crane

The problem extends to well before Wray’s time. Back to the ‘90’s, at least, and probably before that.


11 posted on 10/01/2021 5:04:37 AM PDT by Churchjack (Free your mind, your ass will follow.)
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To: RandFan

Defund them and send them all home. All they seem to be good for is spying on Americans, propping up domestic terror and entrapment.


12 posted on 10/01/2021 5:12:00 AM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them )
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To: RandFan

Who the heck is Julie Kelly??


13 posted on 10/01/2021 5:17:20 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Nifster

Could the rats get on board?


14 posted on 10/01/2021 5:25:08 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: RandFan
I can't say I disagree.

For those who've followed my posts at all the past tree years, you'll remember my oldest son, a 2019 WIU Magna Cum Laude Graduate in one of the country's leading Law Enforcement Programs interviewed with the FBI and received three FBI "coins" during the interview process. (FBI agents on this forum will know what that means. I was told having those coins held some sifnificance, but wtf do I know at this point.)

Following the advice of one of his trusted Professors at WIU (a former FBI agent who'd worked his way up the ranks in Boston and was one of the agents who brought down Whitey Bulger) he opted to not pursue a career with the FBI. His professor's statements that the FBI was nothing more than an arm of the Democrat Party had much to do with it. My oldest son HATES politics.

My oldest son then went onto a local law enforcement role here in the Chicagoland area and resigned after one year when BLM/ANTIFA were attacking the police daily and our big, fat, stupid Governor and the Hellinois State Legislature stripped police of Qualified Immunity, subjecting all LEO's to personal lawsuits designed to bankrupt them for even the slightest infraction.

As far as I'm concerned, the entire FBI needs to be burned to the ground and left in a smoldering pile of ashes. Never to be resurrected. The only thing the FBI does a decent job of these days is keeping crime statistics. That is how they started, and if they return that's what they should be limited to, period.

15 posted on 10/01/2021 5:43:00 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: RandFan

Sounds like the right thing to do, but what about all the corrupt quisling agents? Do we really want them in our Country? Should they all be Exiled to another Country?


16 posted on 10/01/2021 6:11:12 AM PDT by eyeamok (founded in cynicism, wrapped in sarcasm)
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To: RandFan

Isn’t one of the goals of communist NWO in their plan to destroy the USA that elimination of the FBI was one of them? I guess they are getting that done too. The problem is the corruption of the system. Think of the number of corrupt individuals involved to allow these things to take place (over decades!); including the MSM. No accountability beyond mentions on FR and bitching to our friends and co-workers that don’t want to hear it or believe it.


17 posted on 10/01/2021 6:17:51 AM PDT by linedrive
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To: eyeamok

If it comes to a head with democrat support I imagine the CIA will be just as guilty.
Don’t count on any of it happening.


18 posted on 10/01/2021 6:17:53 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Not a chance. They weaponized the FBI over a half a century ago


19 posted on 10/01/2021 7:20:18 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: virgil

And don’t let them work in any kind of law enforcement not never ever again.

There’s honest work at Jiffy Lube, etc.


20 posted on 10/01/2021 7:39:04 AM PDT by OKSooner (Always say, "After the fair trial".)
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