He is a snake oil salesman
***I don’t care about Rossi and I care even less what YOU think of him. People don’t sue snake oil salesmen and then try to get their IP.
and he has wasted countless hours of people’s time following his easily debunked
***Experts in [LITERALLY] Industrial Heat could not debunk him so you are WAY off.
and easily verified claims.
***Then easily verify them. Duhh. Gigantic duhh factor.
If Rossi wants to sue me for defamation, he can go right ahead. I’d be happy to take a deposition.
***It would depend upon how much you are worth. He threatened Wikipedia for defamation and they had to withdraw a bunch of their allegations from their website. I doubt you would fare as well.
Not being sued for fraud is not an indicator that his product does anything.
***Reading aint your strong suit. He WAS sued for fraud and it did NOT hold up. You should re-evaluate your entire position on LENR, which was here before Rossi and will be here after he leaves.
Anyone can hire a lawyer to weasel out of having to deliver a working product.
***I think you’re simply full of horse manure. $89Million worth of horse manure.
He isn’t selling anything because he doesn’t have a source of “excess heat”.
***That’s an argument from silence. Classical fallacy. He isn’t selling anything. Period. By his own measure of “in mercato veritas” he has nothing in mercato so I see no reason to extend veritas to him. However, he has survived a direct attempt at stealing his IP [more than once, it is claimed by those around him] so I’ll just sit back and let him do his thing. I’m neither a detractor nor a fan.
And of course producing heat 2% over chemical heating would bring him the trillions..
***Now you’re just saying a bunch of bullshiite. You don’t even know, in historical context, what you’re asserting. 153 peer reviewed papers’ worth of historical context.
Hate to be the one to break it to you..
***I’m obviously more up to speed on the guy than you are.
but he never had a working system, knew it, and continued to lie
***Arguments from silence. Classic fallacies.
and produce phony demonstrations.
***He fooled the Industrial Heat experts at Industrial Heat, he fooled the 7 Swedish scientists who independently verified his technology. I think you underestimate him — either he’s a genius at what you call ‘phony demonstrations’ in front of experts or he’s got sumthin, sumthin that IH WANTED.
Because people wanted to believe the nice old man from Italy had found a solution to a desperate world need.
***I don’t care what people want to believe any more than I care what you believe. But while you are at it, you should admonish the Google team that spent $10M and gave Rossi credit for revitalizing the field. I believe in avoiding classic fallacies, logical reasoning, peer review, scientific method, and rational argumentation... all of which you seem to just toss. This thread aint about Rossi, so take it somewhere else. Start your own thread and see if anyone shows up. I haven’t started a Rossi thread in about a decade, but jerks like you continue to harass me about it so shove off. I was posting LENR threads before you and before Rossi, I’ll be posting about LENR long after he leaves the scene.
So Rossi has no produc. I think we agree on that. He also has taken millions, demonstrated nothing and delivered nothing. Right?
IH were not experts— they were fools and they lost all of their investment. Rich people make bad investments all the freaking time. Falling out? What might have caused that do you think? Maybe being promised a trillion dollar product and they got squat. Rossi took investor money and bought Florida real estate, turning horse shit into condos.
By easily debunked, I mean it would have been trivial to design an experiment that would prove it worked. Instead Rossi used smoke and mirrors to fool the gullible. Can’t prove a negative.
I don’t care if you still believe in Rossi or don’t. Go for it. I’m all for science and trying to find new technology. Plenty of mysteries remain. I am extremely against empty promises— the only thing Rossi delivered.
And I followed LENR about as seriously as anyone. I got fooled too but the red flags kept coming and the excuses for not delivering eventually turned me. By definition, Rossi is a swindler.