Caller: "The onus is 100% on the woman to ensure her safety because at the best of times they are only half dressed"

LBC ^ | Sep 29 | LBC

[Sequoyah101]

I went to the doc yesterday. I should get out LESS often.

What passes for people is disgusting. An insult to themselves and others. Here are a few pointers for going to the doctor’s office:

1. Don’t wear short shorts and an off the shoulder tattered t-shirt
2. Bathe so you don’t stink
3. Don’t bring you German Shepherd puppy
4. Don’t bring your whole family
5. Don’t wander around in and out the door constantly. Sit quietly and read a book or something
6. If you work in the office wear clean clothes to work and not some t-shirt affair with stains on it.

Etc.

[Albion Wilde]

The ultimate irony though, is that back in the forties and fifties we wore incredibly short shorts and halter tops during the summer, some of those tops were nothing more than a six inch strip of fabric with elastic on both edges. Granted, we probably put on a shirt before going to the grocery store, but still, in those days it wasn’t considered slutty at all!

I disagree on several points.

Women in general were much slimmer then, and did not have false breasts and pumped up backsides.

Women and teens then did not have enormous false breasts and pumped up backsides.

Women of that era, except for strippers or stage performers, did not wear a half-pound of eye makeup or cultivate a "duck lips" look.

None of the clothing in the 40s and 50s was made of stretchy, clinging polyester—it was cotton broadcloth or denim, so that even short shorts were not form-fitting.

Even two-piece bathing suits covered the entire buttock and up to the waist, and many had a modesty panel across the front that obscured the vaginal area. The bra portion covered the entire breasts, not even revealing much of the crack between them.

No one decent wore short shorts whose hems rose up above the curve of the buttock. Their fathers or husbands would have locked them in the house.

If all the complaints about patriarchy are true, remember that men of the time did not want to think of their wife as being sexually attractive to all men—husbands as well as fathers enforced an ethic of modesty, believing a wife should only reveal her most sexually attractive qualities to her husband.

[Wiser now]

I agree, the pictures you posted are exactly what I remember wearing.
And you are absolutely correct about the lack of obesity and stretchy fabrics. Women wanted to be ladies.
I did just now remember my mother referring to women with pierced ears as “floosies”. She was none too happy with me when I had my ears pierced when I was 20 years old, but I was a married woman. LOL

[Wiser now]

Feminism was founded by stupid women. The rest of us have resisted the nonsense since it’s inception.

[Albion Wilde]

You probably remembered how “free” and “barely clad” you felt wearing those summer clothes in the 50s, as opposed to how long and covered they actually were, compared to the abominations on show today.

[sinsofsolarempirefan]

The extremes of these arguments are so stupid. On the one hand you’ve got knuckle draggers who think women who dress scantily deserve to get raped because men can’t help themselves, and on the other you’ve got feminists saying that women should be able to dress however they want and men just shouldn’t molest them and men should just be taught not to rape.

No, just because you dress scantily doesn’t mean sleazy men have the right to rape or molest you, and it doesn’t excuse men who do. But its like this, if you go away for two weeks and leave the windows and doors of your house open you can reasonably expect thieves to take all your stuff before you get back because you foolishly refused to recognise the fact that the world contains evil people and criminals always looking for the next easy mark and take reasonable precautions to prevent yourself becoming a vicim.

Being an idiot who refused to take reasonable precautions against being victimised by criminal predators doesn’t excuse the criminals or mitigate their crime but these people exist and will always exist and we all have to accept the fact we have to modify our behaviour to take account of these facts instead of raging about the fact these people exist and lecturing people who aren’t criminals because some people who share certain immutable charectaristics are criminals.

[FalloutShelterGirl]

Women like to say they should be able to go anywhere, dressed as scantily as possible, act provocative, get drunk and be safe.

A Freeper had a great response to that kind of thinking that I am keeping for future use...

And I should be able to set a steaming hot, fresh out of the oven, pizza, covered with yummy things and melty cheese right in front of you and you have no right to desire it!