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To: mac_truck
Thank you for your considered response.

Just need a clarification on two points:

-- You're saying the early results of this planned two-year study is that there are no deaths attributed to these injections (i.e., "... [the] claim the vaccines are killing people ARE being refuted in real time by this study"). This conclusion clearly conflicts with the CDC published data.

-- Your point that there is a "growing pile of evidence that the vaccines are safe and effective" is, in my opinion, arguable from the "safe" perspective as reports of injuries and illnesses continue to pour in and as they are reported by the CDC, and reasonably disputable from the "effective" perspective as these vaccines do not, as do most other vaccines, prevent contracting, spreading and becoming ill from the very disease they have been designed to control.

I think that much more data is needed to confidently and credibly make these determinations ... much more data and much more time even as the push for injecions continues in real time.

Cheers!

123 posted on 09/26/2021 10:34:39 AM PDT by glennaro (Dennis Prager: "Until it's safe" means "Never")
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To: glennaro
-- You're saying the early results of this planned two-year study is that there are no deaths attributed to these injections (i.e., "... [the] claim the vaccines are killing people ARE being refuted in real time by this study"). This conclusion clearly conflicts with the CDC published data.

No, and that's a good point. The Kaiser study omits 'death' as an adverse reaction, which is a bit counterintuitive considering the objective.

At least one doctor commented to JAMA about that, and requested a supplemental report be prepared focused on deaths that occur among the study group. We'll see if that happens going forward.

-- Your point that there is a "growing pile of evidence that the vaccines are safe and effective" is, in my opinion, arguable from the "safe" perspective as reports of injuries and illnesses continue to pour in and as they are reported by the CDC, and reasonably disputable from the "effective" perspective as these vaccines do not, as do most other vaccines, prevent contracting, spreading and becoming ill from the very disease they have been designed to control.

What I meant is that every day that passes without an uptick in adverse reactions amongst the Kaiser study group is another stone added to the pile of evidence the mRNA vaccines are safe. The VAERS self reporting system is flawed, and while it serves a useful reporting function the Kaiser study is a much more robust and verifiable source of adverse reaction data.

I think that much more data is needed to confidently and credibly make these determinations

I agree...and the Kaiser study of 6M+ vaccinated patients is a big step in that direction!

248 posted on 09/26/2021 6:30:50 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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