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Experts warn of COVID vaccine risks at FDA hearing: ‘The vaccines kill more than they save’
Life Site News ^ | 09/21/2021 | Raymond Wolfe

Posted on 09/23/2021 2:23:24 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski

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To: odawg
"According to the experts in the various sciences, which you obviously are not, you have it backwards. The vaccines are causing the mutations."

The Delta variant was first identified in India in December 2020. India began administration of COVID-19 vaccines on 16 January 2021. So, it was not any vaccine that triggered the Dela Variant. This misinformation may have started by French virologist Luc Montagnier. In fact, vaccines help reduce the spread of the virus, therefore decreasing the likelihood that it will mutate and create new variants.

Montagnier has been criticized for several other anti-vaccine claims. His outlandish vaccine statements caused him to be removed as director of Cameroon’s AIDS institute.

Why is it that people will vaccinated their dogs but not get vaccinated? We need to reduce the multiplication and get vaccinated.

21 posted on 09/23/2021 11:10:31 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: GBA

The viral load of Delta is 1000 times the original COVID-19. That is because the Spike Protein, due to the mutation, is more efficient at seating into the ACE-II receptor. According to the latest study, Trusted Source, released by the CDC, unvaccinated people are over 10 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 than vaccinated people. Those who are vaccinated are able to trigger a robust immune protection against hospitalization (60 to 95 percent).

The person whose immune system has been primed by the vaccination requires a little time for his immune system to gobble up all the infection. It is very hard for me to describe the process that is going on. I’ll try to explain it in terms of two chain reactions happening at the same time.

The first chain reaction is the virus infecting the host cells and replicating new viruses. Uncontained, this reaction will grow exponentially until the natural immune system kicks in and puts out antibodies where they increase exponentially (the second chain reaction).

The vaccinated person has the advantage of an immune system primed for the virus and the natural immune system. Consider the immune system as super charged and even though the Delta virus is replicating quickly, these primed immune cells along with the natural immune system team up to overcome Delta Variant’s rate of growth.

The objective is to stop the transmission of the virus. The rate of antibody production grows exponentially. For the vaccinated person, there is a window of time when the viral load is contagious enough to transmit to others. That window is short compared to an unvaccinated immune system, and with safety practices, if there are any mutants being dispersed, the supercharged immune system makes short work of that contagious viral load.


22 posted on 09/23/2021 11:13:51 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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“The Delta variant was first identified in India in December 2020.”

There were no variants until the vaccines were rolled out. The clinical trials in India triggered the Delta variant. The clinical trials preceded the administration of the vaccine in India in January. And the reason India dropped out of the news is that it stopped the delta variant with ivermectin. Go ahead. Search the MSM for news on how India stopped the delta variant. Nothing. Zero. Doesn’t fit the narrative.

“This misinformation may have started by French virologist Luc Montagnier.”

You would be hard pressed to find an immunologist, epidemiologist, or virologist that does not say that vaccination during an epidemic produces variants.

“In fact, vaccines help reduce the spread of the virus, therefore decreasing the likelihood that it will mutate and create new variants.”

Not according to the experts by profession I just mentioned.

“Montagnier has been criticized for several other anti-vaccine claims. His outlandish vaccine statements caused him to be removed as director of Cameroon’s AIDS institute.”

There you go again with Montagnier. Irrelevant to may point. He has nothing to do with all the experts I mentioned, by profession.

“Why is it that people will vaccinated their dogs but not get vaccinated? We need to reduce the multiplication and get vaccinated.”

You must get your guidance and logic from CNN. Why do people like you insist that anyone who is suspicious of the covid vaccine, such as Malone, who invented it, doesn’t like vaccines. Odds are, I have had more vaccinations than you.


23 posted on 09/24/2021 5:45:28 AM PDT by odawg
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The vaccinated person has the advantage of an immune system primed for the virus

Perhaps so, but … this isn’t really a vaccine, but more of a hack into our immune system to get one part primed *just in case* it needs to start up for real.

Not nice to fool Mother Nature, they say, so I wonder what price we pay for these hacks, both up front and with any installment plan they might have.

And I wonder about the damage caused by the tools the hackers are using, too, as there seems to be a lot of people experiencing adverse effects from these vaxxes, including death.

So the vaxxes seem not so much a solution, but rather present new known and unknown problems, in addition to the virus and its variants.

I think we should have continued using the old ways to fight it, as many have and we would have done before the “vaccines” were introduced, and then let nature take its course.

Which we will have to do sooner or later simply due to the nature of the virus itself.

Or, we can fight it with GovCo mandated immune system hacks being injected into us, booster after booster, until death do us part.

None for me, thanks.

I “Just Say No” to experimental genetic treatments … at least until after time and experience reveals what the marketers, politicians and control freaks won’t.

24 posted on 09/24/2021 9:02:06 AM PDT by GBA (Endeavor to persevere)
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Yes thank you for the quote!


25 posted on 09/24/2021 5:07:23 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: odawg

You run up a litany of misinformation. I won’t bother responding to your list. I’m tired . . . yawn . . . of the gaslighting.


26 posted on 09/24/2021 5:16:32 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: jonrick46

The virus replicates in the vaccinated. So your idea is patently false.


27 posted on 09/26/2021 5:57:55 AM PDT by JoeRender
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Yes, the virus can infect a vaccinated individual. I know, unless you understand the full process, you will continue giving out misinformation. I hope this helps:

The original COVID-19 will infect a vaccinated person and the infected cells will manufacture new virus copies to infect other cells in a chain reaction. However, the vaccine-primed immune system will eliminated the virus from the body before the viral load increases to the point of being transmissible. That’s before the Delta Variant showed up in India (before India had the vaccine). The Delta Variant has 1000 times the viral load and it take a varying length of time for the vaccine primed immune system to take care of it as it multiplies in the body. As the infection reaches a peak level it becomes more and more transmissible. There is a window of time that the virus can infect others. So, masks and social distancing are necessary for vaccinated individuals.

The value of the vaccine is that transmissible window of time is short. That means the chances of infecting others is low. The word is multiplication. The less the virus multiplies, the less it is transmissible and the less it can produce mutations. Vaccines reduce the multiplications.


28 posted on 09/27/2021 2:58:36 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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