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To: familyop

“I’m going to wear masks when indoors in public places again to support the people in medical and retail jobs….”
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Why would you do that unless you have immunodeficiencies? Simply to virtue signal? Those members of my family who did not already have natural immunity got the Moderna shots. None of us wear a mask now unless it’s REQUIRED by a business (e.g., when visiting someone in the hospital or going to a dental appointment). Hell, much to my wife’s annoyance, I get close to people in the grocery store if they’re coughing in my so far unsuccessful attempts to also add natural immunity to my more limited Moderna vaccine immunity. Why shouldn’t I get a “breakthrough case” and its accompanying natural immunity.

Seriously, don’t cooperate with our oppressors by masking up.


120 posted on 09/22/2021 8:08:02 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: House Atreides
"Seriously, don’t cooperate with our oppressors by masking up."

How is wearing a mask any kind of oppression?

122 posted on 09/22/2021 8:30:52 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: House Atreides; familyop; BeauBo

I don’t know about familyop, but it is pretty clear (and actually has been for some time) that the vaccines are not very good at curtailing nasal / sinus COVID infections (esp. with Delta), and therefor they are not very effective against spread. The vaccines ARE quite good at clobbering COVID when it tries to go further. The nasal immune response is different than the bloodstream’s — the vaccines work with the latter. Beaubo can explain this better than I. (We had a good discussion about it a few threads back.)

Decent masks properly used will cut virion projection quite a bit, and in this game lowering exposure may mean the difference between that stranger brushing by you getting no case vs. a mild case vs. a serious case. Unless you were recently recovered or tested (negative), unmasked you do not know what risk you may put that brusher-by in. Masked properly, at least you’ll send them fewer virions.

This is NOT an argument for mandates. It IS an argument for education. But, even Sweden did not get that last right... :-(


125 posted on 09/22/2021 9:08:17 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: House Atreides

In my comment #51, I was referring to the insults, vulgarities, slander and threats from anti-mask anti-vaxxers. They’ve also been implying and demanding that we shut up and leave FR. Outside of FR, others like them have been threatening and attacking medical workers, retail workers and others. Some have done worse.

California dad charged with murder in spear gun deaths of his two young children across Mexico border
Fox News
By Michael Ruiz
https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-dad-murder-spear-gun-mexico
“He allegedly claimed to be receiving visions that his wife ‘possessed serpent DNA and had passed it onto his children’ and also mentioned ‘QAnon and Illuminati conspiracy theories.’

Who in their right mind wants to be associated with that? Maybe we’ll see what a small, noisy subgroup of people on a tangent can do without the rest of us in the next two elections. Republican politicians should consider that. It might come to a choice between the quieter majority of us or the perpetually inconvenienced hippies.

We all have immune system weaknesses at times. Some people are weakened by difficult work schedules. Some are weakened by medical conditions. Others are weakened by sedentary behavior. Others, yet, by pregnancies.

I’ll wear masks for them. I’ve done far more difficult things for my family, neighbors and country with no net gain for myself.


130 posted on 09/22/2021 9:37:43 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: House Atreides
Seriously, don’t cooperate with our oppressors by masking up.

Ironical coming from someone who took their vax, defends it like its his first-born, and encourages others to take it.

Yea, you're such a rebel, Harkonnenen.

*rolls eyes*


138 posted on 09/23/2021 12:26:51 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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