16 posted on 09/21/2021 12:24:13 PM PDT by Carriage Hill
(A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
Also, see post 79; I don’t know if this has been confirmed.
81 posted on 09/21/2021 4:30:04 PM PDT by thouworm
("To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth"---Theodore Roosevelt)