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Why It's Time to Treat the Hammer and Sickle Like the Swastika
The Intellectual Takeout ^ | 8/8/18 | Richard Mason

Posted on 09/18/2021 9:58:21 PM PDT by Impala64ssa

If someone were to ask you to think of either extreme of the political spectrum, odds are you would immediately picture a swastika at one end, and a hammer and sickle at the other. Regardless of your views of the left-right paradigm, or whether you subscribe to horseshoe theory or not, we (rightfully) tend to perceive fascism and communism as the standard ideologies of the extreme.

As such, many of us would also feel rather uneasy seeing those two symbols. Upon seeing a swastika, we are immediately reminded of the evils of the Nazi regime, and are accordingly repulsed. To publicly display the logo is even a crime in many European countries. We understand how abhorrent the ideology is, and treat it accordingly with disrespect and disgust.

But how do we react to the hammer and sickle? I don’t have to write an article explaining the millions of deaths that occurred at the hands of communist regimes; like the holocaust, the gulags of the Soviet Union and killing fields of Cambodia are known by many.

Yet, journalists in the UK openly and proudly advocate communism. Statues of Karl Marx are erected. Even the U.S., historically one of the most passionately anti-communist states in history, has a statue of Vladimir Lenin in its Northwestern city of Seattle.

So, why exactly do we treat two equally bloody ideologies in such starkly different ways?

The answer may lie the in misperceptions of virtue. Nazis, rightfully, are seen as hateful and vicious because their ideology is built around the idea that one group is superior to the other. It is an inherently anti-egalitarian ideology, a violent belief that was put into practice only once by those who devised it.

As such, there is no justifiable way in which a fascist could argue ‘but that wasn’t real Nazism’. The same is not true for communism.

On the contrary; we see this line of argument all the time. Those on the far-left have a whole umbrella of communist styles, from Stalinism to Anarchism, Maoism to Trotskyism, or even just classic Marxism. Since Karl Marx never implemented communism himself, the leaders of communist states always have that get-out-of-jail-free card. Any shortcomings, tragedies, or crises a communist regime faces can always be blamed on a misapplication of Marx’s infallible roadmap to utopia.

Conveniently, communists can always detach themselves from the horrors of the past. They can paint themselves as pioneers of an ideology that simply hasn’t had the opportunity to flourish (‘real communism has never been tried!’).

In this way, advocates of communism can continue to paint themselves as protagonists. They are only ever fighting for the liberation of the working class and the creation of workers paradise, and have nothing to do with the false prophets of before. At worst, advocates of communism are seen as misguided, but ultimately well-intentioned.

This is the nub of the issue. While Naziism is intrinsically linked to the crimes of its followers, communism can always be separated. No one would tolerate a t-shirt emblazoned with Adolf Hitler or Benito Mussolini, yet the wildly oppressive Che Guevara is easily detached and morphed into a symbol of revolution.

But at what do we draw the line? The communist ideology in its purest form might be separated from its implementations, but at what point does it’s awful track record discredit any attempts to advocate it?

As economist Murray Rothbard once said: “It is no crime to be ignorant of economics [...] But it is totally irresponsible to have a loud and vociferous opinion on economic subjects while remaining in this state of ignorance.”

We need to say the same about communism. To continue advocating communism despite its dismal track record is neither well-intentioned nor misguided; it is a deliberate attempt to push a provably dangerous ideology. The history of communism is as bloodstained as that of Naziism; much more so, actually. It’s time we treated it as such.

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NOTE TO READERS: The original article misstated Seattle as a Northeastern U.S. city. We apologize for the error.


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: 2018; communism; naziism; oldnews; radicalislam; rop; swastika; totalitarians
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To: Impala64ssa

“If someone were to ask you to think of either extreme of the political spectrum, odds are you would immediately picture a swastika at one end, and a hammer and sickle at the other. “. Stopped right there. No I would not think that in any way. Only liars and fools think nazis are right wing. This piece is a completely ignorant waste of words. They are both far left purely evil forms of totalitarian regimes. They deserve no distinction.


21 posted on 09/19/2021 12:59:46 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: precisionshootist

That’s the assumption that the Political spectrum is more like a circle than a line.


22 posted on 09/19/2021 1:04:27 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator
“That’s the assumption that the Political spectrum is more like a circle than a line.“

Yes that’s yet another example of foolishness. The whole point of left and right is to provide a means to measure the amount of government. It’s a scale with total government on the left and zero government on the right. The circle nonsense is just a leftist lie. Imagine a scale to show the relative weights of things with heavy things on the left and light things on the right. If that scale were to be a circle then at some point very heavy things would have to become light and very light things would become heavy, which like all leftist ideas makes no sense whatsoever.

The fascism on the right nonsense is a lie created by the left so they could point to the right and say “see they are mass murderers to”. Nope that’s a lie. Only the left are the murderers. They are all awful evil people. Good people are on the right.

23 posted on 09/19/2021 2:12:22 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: Impala64ssa

The author buys into the lie that Nazis are right-wing. I cannot believe people feel that way. Nazis are extremely left-wing and if a person bothers to look into it even superficially they would discover this very quickly.
I immediately discount anything else I read from a person that thinks Nazis are right wing. They are willfully ignorant, who knows what other lies they try to believe and force on the rest of us.


24 posted on 09/19/2021 2:44:02 AM PDT by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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To: Impala64ssa

The truth is the Nazi’s were amateur pikers in the murder department compared to the commies.


25 posted on 09/19/2021 3:40:30 AM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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To: Jyotishi
Thanks for posting this. I was vaguely aware that the swastika was a "good luck" symbol (forgive my over simplification). I wasn't aware of the detailed history.

Some modern parallels, IMHO, are the use of the rainbow to symbolize "pride", the appropriation of June (traditionally the month of weddings) as "pride" month, and so forth. Though of course, not as egregious as repurposing the swastika.

26 posted on 09/19/2021 4:08:23 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Don't wish your enemy ill; plan it. )
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To: Impala64ssa

There’s a historical quilt block that precedes the 20th century Nazis that looks much like a swastika.

I put one in a sampler I made that hangs in our main hallway. It raises eyebrows sometimes.

Too bad it has retained the negative connotation.


27 posted on 09/19/2021 4:17:07 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (“If TPTB can force you to take a shot, what CAN'T they force you to take?” - T. Carlson (paraphrased)
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To: Impala64ssa

Fascism is merely an offshoot of Marxism that permits private ownership of industry so long as it benefits the Party and the State.


28 posted on 09/19/2021 4:58:45 AM PDT by jdsteel ("A Republic, Madam, if you can keep it." Sorry Ben, looks like we blew it.)
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To: Impala64ssa

Beyond time


29 posted on 09/19/2021 5:36:02 AM PDT by sauropod (Bidet was no prize before he put the “d” in “dementia.” - Schlichter)
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To: BiglyCommentary
The truth is the Nazi’s were amateur pikers in the murder department compared to the commies.

Absolutely true, but that didn't stop our side from sending our manufacturing, our technology, our wealth, and our sovereignty to a communist nation, all to save $.10 on communist made paint brushes.

We are just as much at fault as any leftists.

30 posted on 09/19/2021 6:00:29 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Will whoever keeps asking if this country can get any more insane please stop?)
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To: Impala64ssa

The hammer and sickle is even worse than the swastika.


31 posted on 09/19/2021 6:10:55 AM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: Nateman

The Nazis were socialists. They’re half a baby step right of the Communists. The difference between them is roughly the difference between maroon and burgundy.


32 posted on 09/19/2021 6:12:18 AM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: Jyotishi

The Hindu fundamentalist Rashtriya Swayamsewak Sangh (RSS) is a fascist organization, formed in alliance with the Fascist movements of Europe.


33 posted on 09/19/2021 6:14:45 AM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: mass55th

They’re two ever so slightly different versions of the same thing.

Like when two different singers do the same song.


34 posted on 09/19/2021 6:15:37 AM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: FreedomPoster

Mises had similar things to say in his discussions of “Russian” socialism and “German” socialism.


35 posted on 09/19/2021 6:17:24 AM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: TBP

Searching for “RSS”, I found:

Why Do Christian Missionaries Dislike Modi And the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh?

https://www.hinduismtoday.com/magazine/why-do-christian-missionaries-dislike-modi-and-the-rashtriya-swayamsevak-sangh/


36 posted on 09/19/2021 2:07:39 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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