Posted on 09/16/2021 5:52:22 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
Police bodycam footage has been released of officers speaking to Gabby Petito and her boyfriend Brian Laundrie in Utah after they responded to a 911 call of a domestic incident a month before she was reported missing.
The Moab City Police Department on Thursday released the hour-long footage of their interaction with the couple when they pulled over their white van outside Arches National Park in Moab on Aug. 12.
In the footage, obtained by ABC7, Petito sobbed as she spoke to an officer.
“I have really bad OCD. I was apologizing to him saying I’m sorry I’m so mean,” Petito told the officer.
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In time some hikers, hunters or shooters will find what’s left.
Tragic soul-broken young people.
Divorce . . . Connecticut style
Evidently this is a big thing with young couples these days and there is a whole subculture being built around it.
But it takes special people to live that way for any length of time. It looks romantic and all but it only took me one trip in a full sized RV to be disabused of that notion forever.
Apparently One missing item is a formal protocol between gabby and her parents. Under the circumstances there should have been a formal protocol. That is the earliest warning sign that something is off. The mother could have insisted on a next drop dead call date but did not. The daughter— same. That they both did not implies that they both had great trust in the bf fwiw.
(And what about a protocol for the father?)
The bf should have recognized that there was a lack of formal protocol but maybe was thinking with his heart (euphemism). Part of being in love is the notion of trusting and taking a risk. The bf may have been getting advice early and often from his parents. They might already have had some doomsday scenario contingency plans. Maybe one such plan was to let gabby walk away, and drive the van home while awaiting a next phone call from her— a phone call that never happened. The hypothetical doomsday plan had the flaw that it made the bf look guilty. Once they all realized that it was almost too late to do anything about it. The Lawyer probably got involved very late in game.
If a breakup happened, there were not likely to be any witnesses. Gabby could have said anything just drive away.
An attractive single girl without a car who has just broken up with her bf and who is emotionally unstable, with no local place to go for the night... is like a walking magnet for perverts who imaginably cruise the highways looking for such potential victims.
Most of the superficial info is stacked against the bf. Presuming he is innocent, The lucky break the bf got was keeping his mouth shut until he was able to lawyer up.
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the notion (feminist myth?) of an empowered independent woman only goes so far when confronted by the reality of everyday life including the superior upper body strength of the typical male adult which is a physical advantage over a typical woman, when all else is held to be equal.
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News coverage is fragmentary. One timeline that is published seems incomplete to me. No mention of Yosemite for starters.
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Also, were the parents divorced? Alas a daughter whose parents are divorced can be emotionally damaged goods. She can grow up in a home environment in which one parent is emotionally abusive to the other parent— and then she models her behavior after the abusive and presumably dominant parent. If that parent is the mother, she then becomes like the mother in her own relationships with people— manipulative, deceptive, emotionally and physically violent with little or no regard for any consequences of her own actions. These women are like human grenades. They can become angry for any small or imaginary slight that they perceive, without limit, and it empowers them to seek retribution, without limit, because they witnessed similar scenarios being played out between their own parents when they were young (and the mother typically prevailed at least in some way). After separation, the mother and daughter remain close while the father is emotionally embargoed from the daughter. I am not a psychologist but there may be studies about this type of situation which must be increasingly common as the number of divorces rise. The daughter becomes to some degree emotionally spoiled by the situation. She is not well equipped emotionally to deal with men when she becomes an adult. She seeks out a man who will give her the type of support she got from her mother growing up in a single parent home— unconditional love. The bf gives her as much love as he can, but the daughters emotional needs are bottomless and while the daughter is unaware of it, unrealistic. The bf gets roped in— let’s go on a multi month car camping trip, quit your job we’ll be ok. Both gabby and the bf enter into a vortex which puts both at risk.
The father was out of the security loop, probably a deliberate choice by the mother. More feminist koolaid? We don’t need a fathers help bringing up my daughter.
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If the couple spent any significant time in the Yosemite valley floor then there might be some videocam footage. No doubt park officials have been reviewing any video they might have.
Out in the deserts of UT/NV/ID/CA there may not be any cell towers to ping off of.
There is a whole lot of nothing out in the SW US.
Had not made the connection for the lesbian murders and the location of this couple or the timing. My spidey senses are leaning toward a triple homicide over the lesbians ‘bringing Gabby under their wings’ and the BF becoming insane over it. Would explain why he drove the van back to his parents house instead of abandoning it somewhere close to his parents home. This one is a sad case and murder(s) are becoming the more likely scenario. The lesbians were shot to death. The circumstances of their murders could be informative.
'[It's like] drowning with your hands tied behind you,' Petito's father, Joseph Petito, told Newsday of his daughter's disappearance. 'You can't describe it. There's nothing you can do. You can't control anything.'
Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD) is a common, chronic, and long-lasting disorder in which a person has uncontrollable, reoccurring thoughts (obsessions) and/or behaviors (compulsions) that he or she feels the urge to repeat over and over.
A passenger Grabbing a steering wheel of a car in motion is imho a an emotional cry for help born of emotional desperation. Gabby was saying in so many words Ian not psychologically well. The police could have brought her to get psychological evaluation under the Utah equivalent of a California penal code 5150. However they did not.
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We are only told that the bf has lawyered up and is not cooperating. The reality might be different. In a more perfect world, the bf gave all relevant info to a cutout who then gave it to police, who are now hot on the trail of a real suspect. There might be reasons for playing possum in public— reasons such as lulling a potential suspect into a false sense of security as police follow promising leads. Mistake #2.
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Imho the mother should have called police after the third day without a callback from the daughter. Which imho would have been warranted under their informal protocol. Mistake #3 (not counting tabby’s parents divorce and resulting collateral damage to gabby).
I’m going on what little there seems to be. And giving feedback which might help someone, maybe someone in a similar situation which has not yet reached a tipping point, so with all due respect, get stuffed along with the high hobby horse that you are riding in on.
As to the father being involved, if that is the case then why are not the mother and father appearing together to make a statement? Why does neither the father nor the mother mention a father call protocol in place (to at least my awareness as revealed by simple web search)?
I am just trying to understand the situation. I don’t deny being speculative but there is a lot of that especially given 12 days of no info. If you have info or analysis to contribute then by all means please do contribute it but do so without attacking anyone.
I’ve not made any claim to have any insider info so I am not hampering anything. At this stage imho new hypotheses are good. People jumping to conclusions are bad. I’m not drawing conclusions but you certainly are. Therefore You are not being helpful imho.
If you cannot control yourself to refrain from attacking me then just don’t respond to me.
You're wildly speculating on little info.
Tabby -> gabby (autocorrect)
See my previous posts. Get stuffed. Do it now. Your analyst will thank you.
That fugly mug? He looks like if Mickey Knox ( Woody Harrelson ) had a beard in "NBK"...
Apparently she was a heavy pot smoker so maybe she didn’t want to leave her stash. On any case I believe she sure picked the wrong boy friend.
I merely stated you were wildly speculating. What was your very personal response? Get stuffed. Do it now. Your analyst will thank you. Interesting.
There is still the possibility of a third party involvement.
I watched the body cam video and the bf seems calm and collected as well as displaying evidence of physical violence against him by gabby. Gabby seems to some degree out of control.
If I take the bfs laywers presumed defense, given public evidence so far, it seems to me that there is reasonable doubt. I’m not saying the bf is innocent, but more evidence is available to police than to us right now.
Never talk to the cops. That’s what lawyers are for.
Remember, ANYTHING you say CAN and WILL be used AGAINST you!
I’d say your responses are equally if not more interesting.
How bout you, dj— why so accusatory on me? I never addressed you. Almost as if you share some characteristic with gabby, and me mentioning it maybe rubs you the wrong way. You can’t help but make accusations against strangers. Hmmm. I’ll let you fill in the blanks.
The girl gets mad and storms away then takes up with two Lesbians. The BF is pissed tot he extent that he just drives away leaving Gabby with her chosen direction. He drives alol the way back to Florida not knowing or caring what happens to her. A third party creepy guy hanging around the campsites murders the Lesbians and takes Gabby hostage, then murders her, too. BF is so pissed at Gabby that he doesn't want to even cooperate with police since he learns of the murders of the Lesbians with whom he left Gabby.
I think she seemed frantic, trying to control her fear. She was doing all she could to defend him and draw attention away from him. My heavens they were in the same bar/restaurant where two people were later murdered and bodies found two days after this “domestic” situation. So let’s say he murdered the two women, and she saw it or knew about it. If that would be the case he would be terrified of what she might do. The witness said she was outside the van struggling with a cellphone.
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