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Woman’s family uses obituary to blame unvaccinated for her COVID-19 death
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Posted on 09/15/2021 2:12:51 PM PDT by MNDude

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To: Tell It Right

“vaccinated?”

Oh, there’s their mistake right there!

You see, Vern, there’s a difference between vaccinated and “vaccinated.”

See, these folks are mistakenly using the pre-September 1, 2021 CDC definition of vaccinated meaning “providing immunity to.” Now, don’t blame them, Vern. That’s been the definition of vaccinated since....well, for a long time. In fact, the CDC and HHS traded on that definition as part of selling the restrictions on ...well, everything until a vaccine could be developed. You know. “Once we get a vaccine, things can return to normal.”

But with all these 2-shot, “fully vaccinated” persons still getting COVID, well CDC did the obvious thing: THEY CHANGED THE DEFINITION OF “VACCINATED.” Now, if you are vaccinated, the CDC says that means “provided protection from” (vs. immunity to.)

I know, I know. What does that mean? It means that: 1) You can still get COVID even if you are “vaccinated”, 2) You can still pass on COVID to others even if you are “vaccinated”, and 3) You can still get get sick (and maybe even die) from COVID even if you are “vaccinated.”

What’s that? Why get vaccinated? Because it may help you defeat a mild case of COVID, perhaps without any symptoms or only easily treatable symptoms or it may make the effects of a full strength COVID infection less severe. And that can be a big difference if you have other health issues. So its really a pretreatment.

But there’s some people that feel the risk of side effects...you know, from the vaccine could be worse than just getting the disease and recovering from it.

What’s that, you say Vern? Kind of makes you wonder why persons don’t just go out and deliberately get the COVID? You know. Just get it over with so they could have that natural immunity and stuff.

Yeah, there were folks who tried that early on. You know, young, healthy types. Had parties and stuff. Turns out that, for some them, the COVID wasn’t just another kind of flu. Mucho regret over underestimating just how sick it could make them. After word got around, that idea died out pretty quickly.

Now the “vaccine resisters” are in kind of a bind.

And the bind is a combination of “vaccinated” persons still operating half under the old AND the new vaccine definitions and the incredible array of facts and fiction circulating in the unvaccinated community.

Now Vern, here’s the thing that the bereaved people missed. And it’s the same mistake all the people shouting about unvaccinated people miss as well.

Just because a person is “unvaccinated” doesn’t necessarily mean that they have COVID. Only people infected with COVID are...well, the people who have COVID. And since “vaccinated” persons can get COVID and pass it on, that makes them as much a reservoir for the disease as the unvaccinated.

So it is infection status, not vaccination status that counts. And you check your infection status by getting a COVID test.

Now, Vern, if we just thing this think through you’ll realize that the real money to be made is in COVID testing. Yeah. Why? Because, until they develop a real, no kidding, pre-1 September 2021 vaccine that really provides immunity, we’ll test, and test, and test. And just figure how many tests per person per year that’ll work out to... Yeah...

Vern, do you know anyone who’d be good at making up test kits?

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=COVID+Testing+Company+purchASES+2021&t=h_&ia=web


121 posted on 09/15/2021 4:48:49 PM PDT by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow. )
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
If the vaccine works, how in the world are you at risk by unvaccinated people? Can anyone explain that?

It only works if EVERYONE takes it...and all the subsequent boosters....and does as they are told.

122 posted on 09/15/2021 4:48:59 PM PDT by Chuckster (Friends don't let friends eat farmed fish)
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To: MNDude

It’s a good thing she got the vaccine. She’d be more dead if she hadn’t. The vaccine makes death less severe.


123 posted on 09/15/2021 4:56:12 PM PDT by upsdriver (Go back and read the Q posts The picture becomes much clearer. Future does prove past.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

These people are incredibly stupid. Their own words indict them intellectually.


124 posted on 09/15/2021 5:00:50 PM PDT by vivenne ( )
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To: MNDude

I’m dieting but I’m still fat because you keep overeating.


125 posted on 09/15/2021 5:03:39 PM PDT by dead (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_vFiUUcBkc)
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To: MNDude

F-— her family!

Yeah, I’m talking to you Marc, you liar!


126 posted on 09/15/2021 5:11:12 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Donald J. Trump is my president, not the Commander-in-Thief, brain-dead Joseph Stolen)
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To: MNDude

What logic


127 posted on 09/15/2021 5:16:34 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood (https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3804407/posts?q=1&;pag, and that)
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To: MNDude

But...but...she was vaccinated! If they’re any good, the vaccines should protect her from the unvaccinated! Are these people all brain dead? If THIS lady was vaccinated and caught it anyway, what good is ANYONE’S vaccination??? Crazytown!


128 posted on 09/15/2021 6:03:37 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: varyouga

What, no comment? You couldn’t find your own tuchus with both hands and a map.

“Antibodies help the average immune system fight a virus and reduce its spread in the community.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAqIJZeeXEc “Brawndo Has What Plants Crave!”

Idiocracy was prescient.


129 posted on 09/15/2021 6:09:59 PM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Now thousands of people will lose their jobs because they are smart enough to know THE ELITE WANT YOU DEAD. The stupid people are dying from the vaccine or going to the hospitals where they kill you with ventilators. You can watch Bill Gates videos where he talks about using vaccines to kill people.


130 posted on 09/15/2021 6:39:26 PM PDT by Cowgirl
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To: MNDude

Well, stupid IS hereditary.


131 posted on 09/15/2021 6:59:44 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: MNDude

The vaccine killed her


132 posted on 09/15/2021 7:04:55 PM PDT by genetic homophobe
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

I have work to do, FRiend. Maybe I’ll respond later but your childish insults speak volumes and make me not want to waste my time


133 posted on 09/15/2021 7:13:33 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: varyouga

Went back and read your posting history for a few years. I was right. A descent human with an instinct for the greater good but short on critical thinking skills in spite of an above average IQ. It makes you vulnerable to exploitation because you have a tendency to buy (B)ovine (S)cat and regurgitate it in your posts.

Instinct is right about the meat industry. See here: https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3994276/posts?page=75#75

Unfortunately you framed your argument like a socialist would with no facts, lots of feelings and demonization of free markets. The problem with US meat is not free markets, it is graft in setting up market structure and the elimination of free markets for the benefit of the 3+1 meat companies of which 2 are Brazilian entities.

BTW, yesterday Uttar Pradesh was announced to be Covid free.


134 posted on 09/16/2021 2:28:34 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
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To: varyouga

https://archive.vn/MdeVH

In totally unrelated news (Sarcasm) Israel, one of the highest Vax nations breaks records and eyes a 4th round of boosters to quadruple down on what has not worked so far.

While in Uttar Pradesh (invermectin) and Kerala (non invermectin) :

https://www.indiatoday.in/coronavirus-outbreak/story/uttar-pradesh-districts-covid-free-cases-deaths-1847365-2021-08-31

In Uttar Pradesh (38% vaccinated): Fresh Covid-19 cases in the state have remained below 100 for 50 consecutive days.

Of the 1,87,638 samples tested in the last 24 hours, 21 tested positive. In the same period, another 17 patients recovered from the infection, adding to the recovery of over 16,86,182 people so far.

A stringent “trace, test and treat” measure, vaccination and partial curfews have paid dividends in restricting Covid-19 spread. The positivity rate has slumped to 0.006 per cent, the lowest in the country. Kerala has a test positivity rate of 19.67 per cent.

https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/indias-ivermectin-blackout-—part-iii-the-lesson-of-kerala/article_ccecb97e-044e-11ec-9112-2b31ae87887a.html


.006% vs almost 20% in India

“Highly vaccinated Israel (+/- 65% vaccinated) recorded the highest number of daily CCP virus infections per capita this week.”

How lacking are your critical thinking skills?

You can lead a horse to water, but you can not make it think critically.


135 posted on 09/16/2021 3:07:01 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Lmao. I’m paid to be a private consultant for some of the largest firms and started from zero so important people clearly value my critical thinking.

Stop wasting time reading comments for years and making up things never said. Go out and get sh** done


136 posted on 09/16/2021 6:49:16 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: varyouga

“Every single transmission that is prevented is important since the virus is highly contagious and spreads exponentially”

WE’RE DOOOOOMED!


137 posted on 09/16/2021 6:55:35 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (“If TPTB can force you to take a shot, what CAN'T they force you to take?” - T. Carlson (paraphrased)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

You imply things I never said and there is really nothing to debate, FRiend.

I never said vaccines were perfect, the only route, or the magic bullet. I never said Ivermectin doesn’t work. I only said we should be doing as many things as possible to reduce the spread of this deadly disease. There are many more things we can do besides vaccines and I specifically said you don’t have to do be vaccinated to help.

The only thing I’m against is pretending covid does not exist and doing nothing.

I never ever said free markets are inherently bad and the corruption you speak of I am aware has nothing to do with free markets. It has to do with corrupt fatcats buying corrupt officials. Which would occur under any economic system we know of


138 posted on 09/16/2021 7:39:01 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

You imply things I never said and there is really nothing to debate, FRiend.

I never said vaccines were perfect, the only route, or the magic bullet. I never said Ivermectin doesn’t work. I only said we should be doing as many things as possible to reduce the spread of this deadly disease. There are many more things we can do besides vaccines and I specifically said you don’t have to do be vaccinated to help.

The only thing I’m against is pretending covid does not exist and doing nothing.

I never ever said free markets are inherently bad and the corruption you speak of I am aware has nothing to do with free markets. It has to do with corrupt fatcats buying corrupt officials. Which would occur under any economic system we know of


139 posted on 09/16/2021 7:39:34 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: varyouga

I’m paid to be a private consultant for some of the largest firms and started from zero so important people clearly value my critical thinking.


I find that virtually impossible to believe. From what I have seen, to quote Senator Kennedy: “You Are the Reason We Have to Put Directions on Shampoo Bottles.”


140 posted on 09/16/2021 7:45:45 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
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