Posted on 09/12/2021 5:36:26 PM PDT by Bearshouse
Cell phone video from inside the capitol on 1/6
I think the killing of Ashli Barrett was outrageous because she was shot from ambush after the police on her side of the windows had stood by while the windows were broken, and then stepped back, giving her the reasonable impression she could continue without being harmed. Justice would be served by sentencing her killer Byrd to prison for a long time.
I have no problem with the use of deadly force to control rioters, though, if done with proper warning and documented well with videos. I believe the Capitol could have been protected without killing anyone — or, most likely, even harming anyone — if the police had formed a line in front, drawn their guns, and announced that anyone who approached them would be shot. (I see no reason why police should have to wrestle with demonstrators, as is routinely done around the world.)
How many persons would have been suicidal enough to advance into drawn weapons after such a warning? Probably none (and if they did, I’d have no sympathy for them). They had the right to protest “peacefully”, yes — as Trump asked them to — but not the right to occupy the Capitol.
There was a lot going on in different sections.
Some of it was violent.
Some violence was done by blm / antifa and fed gov plants.
It appears that most were relatively peaceful until, I believe, metro DC or Capitol police started shooting rubber bullets, flash bangs and tear gas into the crowds well back from the steps.
14,000 hours of video but Ice Cream Queen Nancy won't let anybody see it.
Why not?
“Why aren’t their attorneys simply taking the case to the public?”
I think that many of them have public defenders who are being paid by the government. Huge conflict of interest, considering the government wants them dead.
I said, as many others did, that this was a false flag operation from the second I heard about it.
As time goes on, this is looking more and more likely.
Maybe they can’t get the word out—maybe no news organizations, Twitter, whatever, won’t let them.
Are these guys plants? FBI. He sorta makes a face when he says peacefully.
Fortunately the Ashli Babbitt shooting, at least, was well documented by persons in the crowd. Well enough to see that it was unjustified and that Byrd lied about what happened in his account of it. Here's where I point that out and give some links to images and a video -- thread post 54.
That includes the Sullivan video taken from the left side of the hall. Sullivan, looking through the left panel window, saw Byrd's gun jutting out from his hiding place and tried to warn people, but nothing could be heard on the right side of the wide and noisy hall, as a video shot over there proves (as well as the actions of the persons) -- video from the right side (not included in the other thread, but it's needed too to show the inaction of the police and lack of audio of a warning on the right side).
Also here's a synchronized longer combination of several videos, which is useful for the relative timing of events, but the details of some parts are hard to see in it -- synchronized video at Rumble. To make out details, the individual videos are best.
“It does show that the guards were allowing them in to protest though.”
Of course it does. I never said otherwise.
Well, yeah.
Thanks - I’m one of the ‘won’t click on Twitter’ people...
Bookmarking
Wasn’t the FBI attempting to confiscate all video of. the protest? This is one of the reasons why...
Makes me wonder why so many capitol police “committed suicide” shortly after.
I'm guessing the suicides were among conservative officers. If liberals were killing themselves the pretentious 'men' and bimbos of MSNBC and the New York Times would be covering it.
That is Exactly what that shows, and the people on the ground confimed same. This video is still on Twitter, btw.
Invitation is an absolute defense to [Federal] trespass.
I save copies of all images and videos that support views of events that the oligarchs in the high-tech companies would prefer not prevail.
I agree that no charges are justified against protesters who advanced through the opening in those barricades given up — while not being forced to — by the Capitol police. Persons who used violence to get into the Capitol itself would be liable, though, and probably those who saw it and advanced too. If others came later, saw open doors and no violence, then again I don’t think they should be charged unless they committed other offenses.
What we think is right probably has little to do with what the rulings will be, though, not when outrages — clearly documented on video — such as the killing of Ashli Babbitt have been dismissed as justifiable.
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