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To: ThunderSleeps

I didn’t notice that movement but it makes sense.

That’s a lot of bullets needed to stop someone.

What caliber ammo do those guys use? Anyone know?


22 posted on 09/10/2021 12:24:07 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: metmom
What caliber ammo do those guys use? Anyone know?

Typically law enforcement tends to favor 9mm or 40 S&W. Without initiating a religious war, yes the 40 hits harder. (says the guy that carries 9mm)

Either way though, these are *just* handgun rounds. I believe the statistic is that in general, 6 out of 7 people shot with handguns survive. No, I don't think catching 15 rounds of either 9mm or 40 S&W is survivable. I didn't research it, but I'd bet that guy is dead.

The thing is, especially with handgun rounds, you can put one or even multiple rounds into extremities without significantly disabling the target. They may lose function or lose the use of that limb due to muscle or bone damage, but the wounds are not immediately fatal.

Even putting a dozen hollow points into the torso may not be an *immediate* stop. If you don't hit the heart or the spine, they are potentially still a threat. Even with their organs turned to hamburger it takes a few moments to bleed out enough to deny oxygen to the brain and stop them. Really the only immediate sure-stops in one shot are heart, spine, or brain.

Every self-defense tactics instructor I've ever talked to (and there have been several) says if you decide to employ deadly force you shoot center mass (ie. heart) and you shoot as rapidly as you can accurately at that range until the target stops moving. In fact one was emphatic that within arms reach you mag dump, period. You don't get any points for bringing ammo home, only for bringing yourself and your loved ones home.

31 posted on 09/10/2021 12:42:59 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Biden/Harris - illegitimate and everyone knows it.)
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To: metmom

keep firing until the target changes shape or catches fire...


34 posted on 09/10/2021 12:48:19 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. P144:1)
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To: metmom

That’s a lot of bullets needed to stop someone.
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Really? You mean too many? How many would be the proper amount?


53 posted on 09/10/2021 2:56:47 PM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat
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