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Encrypted email website ProtonMail passes user’s IP address to French authorities, leading to arrest of climate activist
RT ^ | 9-7-21 | RT

Posted on 09/09/2021 7:22:45 PM PDT by dynachrome

A French climate activist has been arrested after the private email service ProtonMail cooperated with authorities after a court ruling, logging details of a user before providing it to the police to identify a French citizen. On Monday, Andy Yen, the founder and CEO of Proton, the company behind the Swiss email provider ProtonMail, published a statement saying that he deplored the way legal tools had been used to bring about the arrest of a French climate change activist, but claimed his service was still secure.

“In this case, Proton received a legally binding order from Swiss authorities which we are obligated to comply with. There was no possibility to appeal this particular request,” Yen wrote.

The data was requested as part of a wider investigation into the occupation of a number of Paris flats and commercial properties by climate activists. While attempting to remain anonymous, one of the activists had used the address “jmm18@protonmail.com” in online postings.

French police sought to find the person behind the account and registered a request with a court in Switzerland – the home of ProtonMail – with the help of Europol. Being a Swiss entity, the firm abides by that country’s laws, meaning foreign requests, such as the one put forward by the French and Europol, would only be acted upon if approved by a Swiss court.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Computers/Internet; Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: encryption; government; liars; notsoprivate; protonmail; switzerland
Not so private, I guess.
1 posted on 09/09/2021 7:22:45 PM PDT by dynachrome
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To: dynachrome

These guys are amateurs. Those who really don’t want to be traced can’t be found.


2 posted on 09/09/2021 7:26:15 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: dynachrome

I think ProtonMail listed in their TOS that they would comply with any proper legal requests from the Swiss government. Many people still think of the Swiss and their privacy/secrecy of banking practices as it was 50 years rather than the reality of today.


3 posted on 09/09/2021 7:27:53 PM PDT by Mr Fuji
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To: proxy_user

It is hilarious that these services still try to push the “privacy” claim—no matter how many times they are breached, legally or illegally.

They have _no_ shame.


4 posted on 09/09/2021 7:28:40 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: dynachrome

Climate change activist? What was he being investigated for - was he a [dun-dun-DUN] climate change denier?


5 posted on 09/09/2021 7:35:29 PM PDT by enumerated
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To: enumerated

More likely he was an environmental terrorist.


6 posted on 09/09/2021 7:38:50 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: dynachrome

“It’s still secure. We will just give your info to the government. If you aren’t doing anything wrong, you have nothing to hide.”


7 posted on 09/09/2021 7:39:10 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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To: dynachrome

“It’s still secure. We will just give your info to the government. If you aren’t doing anything wrong, you have nothing to hide.”


8 posted on 09/09/2021 7:39:33 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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To: FreedomPoster

Not trying to be dense, but what is an environmental terrorist?


9 posted on 09/09/2021 7:49:56 PM PDT by enumerated
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To: dynachrome

Guess what email device I am dropping...

Any ideas for another? The field is thin.


10 posted on 09/09/2021 7:54:55 PM PDT by madison10 (I AM the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except by Me)
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To: madison10

Device=service😒


11 posted on 09/09/2021 7:55:35 PM PDT by madison10 (I AM the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except by Me)
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To: dynachrome

He signed up using his real name and probably his own credit card?

He probably didn’t use Tor to sign up, either.


12 posted on 09/09/2021 8:01:27 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom ("If I’m going to get my political views from those who chase balls, I’ll ask my dog.")
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To: enumerated

I guess eco-terrorist is the more correct term.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eco-terrorism


13 posted on 09/09/2021 8:42:36 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: dynachrome

Same goes for crypto currencies. If the government wants your wallet password they have ways of getting it.


14 posted on 09/09/2021 10:18:47 PM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: dynachrome

I guess the difference is that Proton Mail didn’t want to hand over the data on these Leftists, whereas the US Tech companies gladly hand over the same data when it can bring conservatives down.


15 posted on 09/10/2021 12:46:19 AM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: dynachrome

I had to read this several times.
One of the great things about Protonmail is unlike Whatsapp, they can’t read your messages.
What they did was under court order, gave police the IP address of the offender.
The police then tracked them down using the persons ISP.

They did NOT give them email transcripts as they have zero access to them.


16 posted on 09/10/2021 5:09:14 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: Zathras

Yep... Even the FR would be forced to do the same in this case. In fact every domain in the country would also have to do the same in this legal situation. It is federal law.


17 posted on 09/10/2021 6:17:41 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Zathras
gave police the IP address of the offender

A good VPN is pretty much a necessity for any online activity these days.

18 posted on 09/10/2021 6:37:02 AM PDT by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building.)
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