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To: Little Ray

I’m fully aware of the politicization, fear mongering, desire for control, etc etc etc, surrounding everything about covid and these shots. Putting that aside for a moment..

In the past, hasn’t all this work taken years for these companies and researchers to come up with these treatments? From some other comments I’ve read, between initial development and testing, all sorts of trials, etc, it’s looking to me that it should take at least 5 years or more before anything is put in a box or a vial.

Am I missing something? Are folks that conditioned to believe all of this? They didn’t develop the flu vaccines that many take in a few months, right?


5 posted on 09/08/2021 9:59:56 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: qaz123

No. It shouldn’t take 5 years to put it in a box or vial. Experimental therapies should be available with informed consent.

The thing that has my hackles up is that there are people trying to make the notavax compulsory - take it or lose your job, can’t go to school, or go to jail. It sets all my alarm bells ringing, the more so as we discover that the notavax is nearly useless and that ‘they’ want the vic, er, recipients to take additional ‘boosters.’ I am forced to conclude that there is something to the notavax that has nothing to do with COVID-19.


13 posted on 09/08/2021 10:10:25 AM PDT by Little Ray (Civilization runs on a narrow margin. What sustains it is not magic, but hard work. )
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To: qaz123

Except I’d rather take a vaccine developed in 6 months in 2021 than take one that took 5 to 10 years in 1950.(and I did take several in 1955, when starting public school)


14 posted on 09/08/2021 10:10:32 AM PDT by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: qaz123; Little Ray
"In the past, hasn’t all this work taken years for these companies and researchers to come up with these treatments? From some other comments I’ve read, between initial development and testing, all sorts of trials, etc, it’s looking to me that it should take at least 5 years or more before anything is put in a box or a vial."

In the industry, generally...

The estimated average cost to bring 1 drug to market is between $648,000,000 and $2,700,000,000. [1] [2][3]

The estimated average time ( from initial theory to the marketplace and all the phases in between) to bring a drug to market is 10 years. [1][2][3]

Then, there is the very high percentage of failures in the process. Only an estimated 1 of every 10 drugs investigated make it to market. That pertains to medications/therapies that made it past the initial idea / theory / creation stage and actually was found stable enough to get manufactured and into some sort of trial / testing regimen. From that difficult to reach point...a 90% "failure" rate. That's lots of time and money spent on something they can never make money on. [1][2][3]

And just because a drug makes it to market, doesn't mean it's going to be a big success. It's just approved for sale.

Pfizer specifically...

Pfizer’s Six Month, Unblinded Study With No Control Group
Despite Pfizer’s recent FDA “approval,” the pharmaceutical giant’s phase 3 trials—that were used as the basis for the FDA “approval,” and are intended to test long-term side effects—are not scheduled to be completed for two more years.
https://uncoverdc.com/2021/09/07/staff-sergeants-file-class-action-suit-against-covid-mandate/

Study to Describe the Safety, Tolerability, Immunogenicity, and Efficacy of RNA Vaccine Candidates Against COVID-19 in Healthy Individuals
Recruitment Status : Recruiting
First Posted : April 30, 2020
Last Update Posted : August 26, 2021
Estimated Primary Completion Date : May 2, 2023
Estimated Study Completion Date : May 2, 2023

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04368728

 

A Trial Investigating the Safety and Effects of Four BNT162 Vaccines Against COVID-2019 in Healthy and Immunocompromised Adults
Recruitment Status : Recruiting
First Posted : May 8, 2020
Last Update Posted : April 22, 2021
Estimated Primary Completion Date : April 2023
Estimated Study Completion Date : April 2023

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04380701

32 posted on 09/08/2021 10:36:58 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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