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California Wildfire Devastation Was Entirely Preventable Through Proper Land Management
The Federalist ^ | 09/04/2021 | Tristan Justice

Posted on 09/04/2021 10:10:52 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 09/04/2021 10:10:52 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Only in California do people complain about fires in an area that is arid to semi arid. Further this is the same state that build a high rise condo on landfill in an earthquake zone and is shocked the buidling was not properly set into the bedrock.


2 posted on 09/04/2021 10:39:51 PM PDT by LukeL
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Imagine how wonderful the World would be without Rats.


3 posted on 09/04/2021 10:43:51 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why arent the towns allowed to create sufficient buffer zones?

Because the enviros are anthrophobes and want the rural towns eliminated.

And, see tagline.


4 posted on 09/04/2021 10:55:39 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Seruzawa

The only thing wrong with the author’s article is his notion that the fires were “negligence”, when they were really willful. In California, the government is being run by a secret society that is malevolent toward any who threaten it by their living independently in rural areas.

“Everything in the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state” - Benito Mussolini


5 posted on 09/04/2021 11:01:54 PM PDT by WLusvardi (Drudge Fudges)
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To: SeekAndFind

Who the hell is Tristan Justice?

It’s a bit amusing to read such articles EVERY FIRE SEASON, but the amusement hardly tempers my anger.

He quotes, “At that pace, it would take decades to treat the areas at risk of catastrophic fire.”

I’ve commented in this forum to others complaining about the smoke: “Get used to it.”

The damage was wrought over a century. To assert that the correction would take merely decades is fantasy and the misallocation of resources - primarily funding, but I refer to mental capacity as well pertaining to policy decisions - will assure that there will be MANY more catastrophic and deadly fires in the coming decades...

...all hyped in defense of the clarion call of the century:

‘Climate change’.

In spite of the fact that the ignorant author conflates weather with ‘climate change’, who seriously believes that anything will change when the publicity of these fires serves their propaganda needs???


6 posted on 09/04/2021 11:40:03 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: SeekAndFind

To clarify, my question, “Who the hell is Tristan Justice?” is rhetorical.

He’s an ignorant boob on almost absolutely everything he wrote.


7 posted on 09/04/2021 11:42:51 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: SeekAndFind

Born and raised in California. We used to have hundreds of California Conservation Corps Fire Camps. They were all over. Some near cities and towns, others deep in the forest. They would maintain the forest and fire roads, clearing out dead trees and underbrush. Clinton started getting rid of the roads in the 1990s, ‘returning’ the forest to its ‘natural’ state. So, we could not reach the fire since the roads were gone.

Even the Native Americans used to burn out the underbrush.

Now there are not many fire camps.


8 posted on 09/05/2021 1:15:51 AM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try. )
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III

Seems like we have this discussion every year.


9 posted on 09/05/2021 1:17:49 AM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Forest management is a real science!
There are PhD’s in forestry. It is complicated science, sometimes with no clear answers.
But NO, the “trust the science” people decided instead to dump it all and fight to protect every tree and every slug around! Touchy, feely, replaced the science!
Their fight to save the trees resulted in loss of the whole forest!

Maybe Newsom should once trust the science!


11 posted on 09/05/2021 3:28:53 AM PDT by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHGreco RomNQkryIIs)
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“ Seems like we have this discussion every year.”
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Yeh, we do. The underbrush will eventually be burned out either by nature or smart managed conservation methods. The Enviro Elites prefer the current wild fires as they allow them to scream climate change, global warming. Idiots…..


12 posted on 09/05/2021 3:50:27 AM PDT by snoringbear (,W,E.oGovernment is the Pimp, )
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m too busy but will someone find where Trump made the exact declaration about forest management and was ridiculed by the moron media?


13 posted on 09/05/2021 4:03:14 AM PDT by rhoda_penmark
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Found it. 2018.

“US West Coast fires: Is Trump right to blame forest management? - BBC News” https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46183690.amp


14 posted on 09/05/2021 4:06:00 AM PDT by rhoda_penmark
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To: SeekAndFind

Could all this “excess fuel” in the forests be hauled away and used to generate electricity?

Of course the enviros will howl. That’s what they do.


15 posted on 09/05/2021 5:10:38 AM PDT by DNME (... at that awkward stage. Too late to work within the system; too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: SeekAndFind
since modern-day tracking began in 1983.

Clever use of known data......1927 was a peak year for wild fires which steadily declined until the forests grew back and started burning again in 1983.

Everything burning these last couple of years will grow back then the cycle will repeat itself.......

16 posted on 09/05/2021 5:22:03 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Without potatoes, life has no meaning......)
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To: SeekAndFind

Of course. Demos did a deal with treehuggers ages ago. Stop all water storage and forest management activities (among others) and votes will be delivered and riots staged.


17 posted on 09/05/2021 6:35:28 AM PDT by bobbo666 (Baizuo)
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To: Seruzawa

That might help but don’t think it would be enough. These fires are so big they throw embers that start another hotspot a mile out.


18 posted on 09/05/2021 6:44:00 AM PDT by sheana
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To: sheana; Seruzawa

The key is in your own statement.

“These fires are so big they throw embers that start another hotspot a mile out.”

With proper management as Seruzawa notes, the fires burn much much slower and can be contained before they get “so big”.


19 posted on 09/05/2021 7:07:49 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: snoringbear
The underbrush will eventually be burned out either by nature or smart managed conservation methods.

Much of the California area is a fire-maintained ecosystem. The trees cannot germinate naturally until a fire scorches the cones. That assures the young trees have no undergrowth to compete against.

Controlled burns are the best approach.

20 posted on 09/05/2021 7:20:00 AM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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