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To: gas_dr
In my judgment using HCQ or ivermectin when I can get people to monoclonals violates that oath

1. I missed the news stories about bodies stacking up from HCQ and Ivermectin. I do know two people who beat covid with HCQ.

2. The jury is out on whether you are doing harm by injecting the vaxx treatment. Obviously, some have immediate harm, but we do not know the 2nd or 3rd order consequences yet.

110 posted on 09/04/2021 8:34:55 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything ᡕᠵ᠊ᡃ࡚ࠢ࠘ ⸝່ࠡࠣ᠊߯᠆ࠣ࠘ᡁࠣ࠘᠊᠊ࠢ࠘𐡏⁻ )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

These are very clever arguments but not on point. I was speaking as to HCQ snd Ivermectin being ineffective. It’s particularly clever for people to say they are safe drugs that have been around for years. True. But they don’t work with CoVId. And as for your friends who survived would the outcome have been different without HCQ?

There is no question this is a complex systems question. But I think we are oversimplifying on both sides.

In my medical judgment I am not violating my oath on going no harm by advocating for vaccines. I can clearly observe that the amount of vaccinated patients in critical condition continues to be scant. You are attempting to enforce a presumed future analysis that does not exist to apply to a judgment today. I can only know what we know today. And today the vaccines appear to be working. Monoclonals work. Given this it would be doing harm to recommend a lesser treatment for the disease m

The treatment that is clinically superior is regeneron and monoclonals.


113 posted on 09/04/2021 8:43:38 AM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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