> While Eve was “deceived” Adam was the one given the command not to eat of the apple....so he was actually first to break the commandment outright.......also interesting is after Eve ate she simply turned and gave it to Adam...so what was he doing all the time this dialogue between eve and the serpent was going on?????? Just watching?
Hmmm. I am certainly no bible expert. However, I read that Genesis 3:2-3 states:
(2) The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, (3) but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’”
So I infer that Eve has admitted, at least according to this source, awareness of God’s law forbidding not just Adam but also Eve from eating fruit from the tree of knowledge. If we choose not to believe this then we might be allowed to pick and choose which parts of the bible we believe and which parts of the bible we do not believe, and that is conventionally regarded as heretical. I’m not sure where Adam was while Eve was talking to the serpent, but maybe you were not so serious about the first part, since the refutation seems so easy (or else I am missing something obvious, which is always possible also). If Adam was not around during the hatching of the alleged conspiracy between Eve and the serpent, then Eve is guilty IMHO of entrapment. In Genesis it is portrayed as a bad thing since both Adam and Eve are allegedly feeling ashamed of their naked selves immediately after both ate from the apple. Guilty, and guilty! Next!
> Also scripture tells men to ‘love’ their wives where it encourages women to’ respect’ their husbands. There is a distinction because a woman will find it hard to love a man she cannot respect.
Hmm... I see that, although I am not certain what to conclude from it... maybe that it is late where I am and i need sleep...
> Additionally ....after they sinned one of the consequences for Eve was, (and conveniently often overlooked by pastors),.. “And your desire will be to your husband and he shall ‘rule’ over you”......Woman have been kicking against that since the fall as it was then women lost their equality so to speak....recalling that she enticed Adam to eat and woman can and do that even to this day.
Hmmm... well... ouch, that sucks(?)... i need more sleep(?)...
> BTW...Woman regained their equality in Christ....thus Christian women often are quite satisfied with Gods purposes both for man and woman....and understand such.
aha, yah. how come if Christianity is so patriarchal throughout time up to and including the present, women vastly seem to outnumber men in the pews? Usually pastors are (ugh) men. So why should women have to sit and listen to anything these men claim to be able to interpret correctly? says who? other men? and what about canon? why cannot women be pastors? or bishops, or whatever?
If I were a woman, I would be constantly asking these questions and constantly re-examining the answers that I as a woman would come up with from my own bible reading. Alas, I am not a woman, and being a not-a-woman has given me as much challenge as i feel capable of handling with any degree of style.
I find canon interesting. Who decides what goes into the New Testament, and when, and what remains outside the New Testament? And for that matter, the Old Testament? Are women represented in the decisions? If not, why not? Most importantly, were the decisions that were made morally correct or incorrect?
You could start right here using the ‘canon’ keyword on Free Republic. Just ignore the threads about the camera with the same brand...
https://freerepublic.com/tag/canon/index?tab=articles
As the father of several daughters, I've come to realize what women want.
Women want to make their own decisions, while still having Daddy have to fix their bad decisions.