[daniel1212]

"I am challenging her claims because the anti-Covid Vaccine and anti-CDC-vaccines-or-nothing side of this has their own fake news and snake oil salesmen too. Not everyone who criticizes the CDC is automatically good at it. We need good information, sources and arguments. When critics of the CDC make statements that opponents can easily discredit, it is like we are scoring baskets on ourselves, not the other side."

Correct, and glad you posted the above and what you found. There is often as much misleading "fake" new on conservative sites then the MSM. One aspect that is known to be true is that until about August 2021, the CDC guidelines only recommended testing vaccinated persons for Covid if they had symptoms. (https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/07/28/world/covid-delta-variant-vaccine) This inflated the % of infected people who were not vaccinated.

[Widget Jr]

There is so much good and bad information on both sides, it is hard to be informed on what is factual.

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The discussion is also largely side show. Decisions have already been made by people who have dubious authority to make them and no one is challenging them. Since when does the CDC have authority over evictions? Where are the employee and civil rights attorneys on mandates? What happened to informed consent? Since when are we told to shut up and engage in a mass medical experiment with no legal rights?

What the 2020 election showed, is for several years a weird type of virtual police state was being created behind the scenes. Then during the election, it was let lose. Now we are living in it.

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