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Mandated Vaccinations. Who is Responsible for Their Risks?
NVIC ^ | 8-30-21 | Heidi Wetzler

Posted on 08/31/2021 6:10:41 AM PDT by Meah

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To: tnlibertarian
Yes. OSHA still sucks.

As a nation we are dying of complexity. There is only 1 valid solution.

Restore the Constitution!Size DC!

21 posted on 08/31/2021 6:40:27 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: tnlibertarian

>>As a result, OSHA will not enforce 29 CFR 1904’s recording requirements to require any employers to record worker side effects from COVID-19 vaccination through May 2022.

Not having recording side effects, is not going to stop the deluge of lawsuits imo.

If an employer requires it, and someone has a bad reactions, I am pretty sure there will be a line of lawyers ready to take it to court.


22 posted on 08/31/2021 6:41:49 AM PDT by qwerty1234
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To: qwerty1234
Not having recording side effects, is not going to stop the deluge of lawsuits imo.It looks like the plan is to just send them to workers' comp. Let that insurance pay for it.
23 posted on 08/31/2021 6:44:57 AM PDT by tnlibertarian
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To: qwerty1234

Elderly people, 65 and up, are dropping like flies around us. None of them are being recorded as “Vaccine Deaths”. None!! We know 10 people in this age group who have dropped dead within 10 weeks of the shots. People who should have had at least a couple more years. Your conventional wisdom is flawed.


24 posted on 08/31/2021 6:45:39 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: qwerty1234

I don’t think that’s accurate. Here is the link:
https://www.osha.gov/coronavirus/faqs#vaccine

Under the question “Are adverse reactions to the COVID-19 vaccine recordable on the OSHA record keeping log?” This is the response:
DOL and OSHA, as well as other federal agencies, are working diligently to encourage COVID-19 vaccinations. OSHA does not wish to have any appearance of discouraging workers from receiving COVID-19 vaccination, and also does not wish to disincentivize employers’ vaccination efforts. As a result, OSHA will not enforce 29 CFR 1904’s recording requirements to require any employers to record worker side effects from COVID-19 vaccination through May 2022. We will reevaluate the agency’s position at that time to determine the best course of action moving forward.


25 posted on 08/31/2021 6:47:26 AM PDT by Meah (The terrain is everything. ~Louis Pasteur )
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To: Meah
-- If someone takes the jab because of a mandate and then gets injured as a result, who bears the responsibility? --

In 1986, as a measure to stifle the ambulance-chaser industry, Congress legislated that damages due to vaccination would become a public liability. Congress created an agency and directs funds to a pool of money to pay claims.

This was done to keep the vaccination industry alive, or prevent it from being sued into oblivion.

This program runs like any other government program.

There is a separate program for damages from unapproved vaccines. The recent Pfizer vaccine "approval" has yet to be litigated, so it is unknown which program damages from these (and other COVID) vaccines will be managed.

At any rate, the answer to your question is that covering damages is a public responsibility, administered by unaccountable institutions.

26 posted on 08/31/2021 6:47:32 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Texas Fossil

Update info from OSHA:

DOL and OSHA, as well as other federal agencies, are working diligently to encourage COVID-19 vaccinations. OSHA does not wish to have any appearance of discouraging workers from receiving COVID-19 vaccination, and also does not wish to disincentivize employers’ vaccination efforts. As a result, OSHA will not enforce 29 CFR 1904’s recording requirements to require any employers to record worker side effects from COVID-19 vaccination through May 2022. We will reevaluate the agency’s position at that time to determine the best course of action moving forward.

https://www.osha.gov/coronavirus/faqs#vaccine


27 posted on 08/31/2021 6:49:12 AM PDT by Meah (The terrain is everything. ~Louis Pasteur )
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To: Meah

Thanks


28 posted on 08/31/2021 6:51:25 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: qwerty1234
-- I believe their is advice from OSHA that if an employer requires the vaccine as a condition of employment, and there are bad outcomes, it is considered a work-related injury - so employers are on the hook for damages, lost wages etc. --

OSHA abandoned that, and does not even require reporting as a work-related injury.

I think that's the best course of action. How many agencies does it take to tun an issue into a mess? Just one, but the more the agencies, the bigger the mess.

The legislative, unaccountable administrative, and unaccountable and legal/court systems are self-serving. They are not there for "justice." Each individual has to do what he thinks is best for himself, and face the reality that government is an opponent, not an ally.

29 posted on 08/31/2021 6:54:05 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: qwerty1234

Do you really believe the 600,000 plus COVID death figure? I’d say that is 10 times the number that actually idied OF COVID.

I know one person who is alleged to have died OF COVID. I know literally hundreds of people who survived it.

The government is lying about the number of people who have died of COVID. They are also lying about the number of people who have died from the vaccine.


30 posted on 08/31/2021 6:54:59 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (I am infected with the <ΙΧΘΥΣ>< variant. )
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To: qwerty1234

There are already hundred of cases on the subject of employer-mandated COVID vaccines.

The vast majority of courts side with the government. The action will be interesting, divided results in the short term, but in the long run plaintiffs will be emotionally drained and demoralized. The legal industry will get richer - it is the only consistent winner.


31 posted on 08/31/2021 6:58:35 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: qwerty1234

“Yes, you are - use some common sense when some folks repeatedly state that the actual vaccine deaths are 100X what has been reported.

You just cannot cover up 1.3 million deaths no matter how hard anybody tries.”

Well lots of people die in the United States everyday. Last week I had a 48 year old friend die of a heart attack two weeks after getting the second dose. Enlarged heart....hmmmm The bodies are piling up but the money involved is more important to the psychopaths who run this country. No doubt in my mind that if you get the mRNA shot, you cut your lifespan down becasue of it. 99.95% survival rate!!!!! I had covid and becasue I take care of myself with proper weight maintenance, nutrition and workouts, it was “meh”.


32 posted on 08/31/2021 6:58:54 AM PDT by ThunderStruck94
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To: Texas Fossil

Read the date on what you posted: 5/20/2021. Click on the link. It links to Lifesitenews reporting of what OSHA did.

OSHA reversed themselves within days:

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/osha-backtracks-wont-hold-employers-requiring-covid-shot-liable-for-workers-vaccine-injuries/

“UPDATE May 24, 2021: OSHA has changed its policy and now says that employers will not be held liable for workers’ vaccine injuries. “OSHA does not wish to have any appearance of discouraging workers from receiving COVID-19 vaccination, and also does not wish to disincentivize employers’ vaccination efforts,” the new guidance says. It’s hard to overstate how shocking this change is,” tweeted former New York Times journalist Alex Berenson. “If your boss tells you to take a vaccine or get fired, and you wind up in the hospital afterwards, no one has to know.””

Here is the current guidance:

https://www.osha.gov/coronavirus/faqs#vaccine

“DOL and OSHA, as well as other federal agencies, are working diligently to encourage COVID-19 vaccinations. OSHA does not wish to have any appearance of discouraging workers from receiving COVID-19 vaccination, and also does not wish to disincentivize employers’ vaccination efforts. As a result, OSHA will not enforce 29 CFR 1904’s recording requirements to require any employers to record worker side effects from COVID-19 vaccination through May 2022. We will reevaluate the agency’s position at that time to determine the best course of action moving forward.”


33 posted on 08/31/2021 7:08:20 AM PDT by TexasGurl24
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To: P-Marlowe

Same here. I personally know ONE person, who I hadn’t seen for 12 years, who died from covid and I personally know dozens who survived it.


34 posted on 08/31/2021 7:16:25 AM PDT by subterfuge (RIP T.P.)
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To: TexasGurl24

>>As a result, OSHA will not enforce 29 CFR 1904’s recording requirements to require any employers to record worker side effects from COVID-19 vaccination through May 2022. We will reevaluate the agency’s position at that time to determine the best course of action moving forward.”

But just changing the recording requirements, does not by itself negate liability - that is for the lawyers to figure out - and I suspect there will be lots of lawsuits.


35 posted on 08/31/2021 7:16:43 AM PDT by qwerty1234
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To: Meah

I had heard that OSHA originally said that if an employer mandated the vaccine and if there was an adverse reaction that any injury or death would have to be considered work related. Then OSHA changed their policy. I suspect that there will be legal actions arising from this and the employers will ultimately be held responsibly.


36 posted on 08/31/2021 7:21:25 AM PDT by Captain Compassion (I'm just sayin')
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To: Meah

My company is mandating them. However they offer no coverage other than the employee’s own PTO in case of absence due to side effects or complications. I am filing a religious exemption, which I am pretty sure I will be denied. Husband is okay with me taking a pay cut to get termed. I’ll find work somewhere else, probably even in an unrelated field because after 30 years, I’m just burned out.


37 posted on 08/31/2021 7:26:31 AM PDT by cjshapi (Proudly posting without a tagline since 2001)
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To: Meah

That depends upon who chooses to hold them responsible, and what they are willing to do to recover the loses.


38 posted on 08/31/2021 7:26:46 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Meah

Silly question citizen.

The answer is that you carry the full burden of the risk. Cant have the people in power, who are the one’s calling for mandated vaccines be responsible. Dont you know it is not your position to question those in power or to threaten their profits / paychecks?


39 posted on 08/31/2021 7:41:07 AM PDT by taxcontrol (You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is.)
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To: Meah

Silly question citizen.

The answer is that you carry the full burden of the risk. Cant have the people in power, who are the one’s calling for mandated vaccines be responsible. Dont you know it is not your position to question those in power or to threaten their profits / paychecks?


40 posted on 08/31/2021 7:41:49 AM PDT by taxcontrol (You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is.)
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