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To: gas_dr
I tend to discount vaccine experiences from countries that don't use American vaccines exclusively...the British data really isn't comparable to the United States.

The Israeli data is more compelling, but the small sample size can distort the results for comparison purposes. For example the Israeli data shows a big increase in deaths from Covid-19 amongst the vaccinated in July 2021, but the total number of all Covid-19 deaths that month is too low (12) to support a meaningful comparison.

I'd also argue that the 'over 50' category used is too broad for meaningful analysis, and may obscure the fact that those who died were actually much older.

I do agree with those who want more detailed information about the so-called breakthrough cases in the United States. Imo it would likely show some big differences between the vaccines in terms of duration and effectiveness. The Johnson vaccine in particular seems to be a weak link in the US vaccine arsenal.

114 posted on 08/30/2021 7:58:48 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: mac_truck

Johnson is outperforming pfitzer across the board, at least equal to Moderna against Delta, and, has proven results against VOC whereas phitzer is having to roll out a ‘variant specific’ bonus round after their booster. Johnson doesn’t seem that weak a link in comparison:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/covid-19-vaccine-effectiveness-has-not-dropped-much-cdc-says/ar-AANUUC8?ocid=uxbndlbing

https://health.wusf.usf.edu/health-news-florida/2021-07-03/new-research-finds-j-j-vaccine-has-muscle-against-covids-delta-variant

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.19.452771v1.full


140 posted on 08/30/2021 11:05:46 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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