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To: BenLurkin; Pelham

They are trying.....been difficult

mRNA was easier but less effective obviously and more side effects

Pelham follows this more than I....he can elaborate

On another note my friend in Los Angeles who has a YouTube channel with his 90 plus year old grandma ...

She got the Pfizer shot and got very sick and her arm seller up enormously and she had to be ambulance to emergency room and almost died....the docs had no medical explanation looking at her arm but to acknowledge the vax was responsible

After 48 hours in and out of unconsciousness she came to but with acute memory loss

They just brought her back home..

I know a ton of vaxxed people....most are fine....

A fair number have gotten it anyhow

I don’t know any vax personally who have died....but I read about them

I do know some who had a hard time with the vax...

The worst crime in all of this is we simply cannot trust the media political science tech narrative org to be honest about anything

You just have to dig and decipher for yourself

I’m nateimmunity......I’m gonna pass on vax

My wife is getting it Sunday....I’d prefer she didn’t but like most women she is conflict averse except southern passive aggressive conflict and her job is mumbling about it...

She too is Nate immunity

Seems to me the narrative org is pushing vax over that for power

We all had it 05/2020


17 posted on 08/27/2021 10:36:06 AM PDT by wardaddy (Fear Republic land of grumps)
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To: wardaddy

Did y’all get IgG IgM and/or T-cell tests?


30 posted on 08/27/2021 12:34:25 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000) )
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To: wardaddy; BenLurkin

“If this is so, why not create a genuine vaccine in the conventional way, and offer it for use?”

What you are thinking of is a whole virus vaccine. Inactivated, crippled, dead, whatever, but using the whole virus.

This was attempted with the original SARS virus of 2003 and the MERS virus of 2013; close cousins of Covid-19.

Those whole virus vaccines did indeed produce the desired antibodies; but when the vaccinated test animals were “challenged” with the wild virus they also experienced VAH, vaccine hypersensitivity reactions, which in humans is known as ADE. Antibody-dependent enhancement. That can kill you.

Both SARS-1 and MERS disappeared on their own and the attempt to solve the whole virus riddle was dropped. But the VAH/ADE experience with the whole virus must have been on the mind of the Covid-19 vax builders. So none of the American vaccines tried it. They use “subunit protein”, mRNA and one other non-whole virus technology. The CCP vaxxes apparently are whole virus, but they aren’t as effective. At least they avoided the ADE problem.

“On another note my friend in Los Angeles who has a YouTube channel with his 90 plus year old grandma ...She got the Pfizer shot and got very sick etc”

Makes me wonder if his grandma could have had Covid at some point. I also reacted to the first shot, although not remotely like his grandmother’s severe experience. I had recurring chills and fatigue that lasted for days. I think I had Covid in January 2020, and my immune system recognized the 1st shot as the enemy. If I did indeed have Covid I should have the whole virus antibodies that natural immunity confers. It’s just a riskier way to get them than a whole virus vaccine would be, despite what Team Fear wants us to believe.


44 posted on 08/27/2021 4:00:15 PM PDT by Pelham (No more words, now we fight)
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