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To: LilFarmer

if it’s rx’d offlabel, it’s experimental, with a different set of legal liabilities for the prescriber. Suing is a sport in California.

Other than studies being invalid against Delta, and the long time for serum levels to build, The major issue with ivermectin, is, people found getting HCQ too hard so they gave up on that and ivermectin is the last choice on the shelf. But folks that can’t get a rx for ivermectin will trot down to the feed store and become one of those 1000+ poison control center calls about 12 hours later because they didn’t think to look up the material data safety sheet for the product before they put things into themselves. Somebody online said it was ok. The same behavior was seen with the vapers that couldn’t source (or didn’t want to pay for quality assured) diy supplies so off to the feed store they went to really screw up their lungs. People aren’t smart. So for that and other reasons already stated, it’s just not something I’d champion for anyone outside the amazonian jungle or african savannah. We have better things.


43 posted on 08/27/2021 5:36:19 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: blueplum

“ If it’s rx’d offlabel, it’s experimental, with a different set of legal liabilities for the prescriber. Suing is a sport in California.”

You use the word “experimental” in the context that it is unsafe and that is misleading. The vaccines are experimental AND have never been proven safe in humans using normal drug trial methodology . Big difference.

It is not illegal to prescribe drugs off label. My son takes a seizure med that was used off label by neurologists for years (now approved).

People are sue-happy in the US anyway, this is not a reason not to try something that has shown great promise.

“The major issue with ivermectin, is, people found getting HCQ too hard so they gave up on that and ivermectin is the last choice on the shelf.”

Based on what?

HCQ is no harder to get than ivermectin, and through the same channels. There are plenty of teledoctors who will prescribe it and it literally takes a few minutes. But it certainly could be easier to get from our family doctors if the FDA would approve it.

My doctor had not read ANY studies on ivermectin, only followed the CDC . I sent him studies, he actually took the time to read them, and now he is interested.

“But folks that can’t get a rx for ivermectin will trot down to the feed store and become one of those 1000+ poison control center calls about 12 hours later because they didn’t think to look up the material data safety sheet for the product before they put things into themselves”

I highly doubt this mainstream news article because we’ve seen this tactic with every potential treatment in the past 2 years.

There will always people that don’t know how to read doses, follow instructions, or buy the wrong med. Guess what, that happens with meds all the time. Even doctors and nurses have misdosed meds. This is a strawman argument.

By the way, have you read the material data safety sheet for the vaccine? How about the ingredient list?

“The same behavior was seen with the vapers that couldn’t source (or didn’t want to pay for quality assured) diy supplies so off to the feed store they went to really screw up their lungs.”

Red herring.

“People are stupid”

So the government should think for them, right? Are you a statist? You should not have freedom to choose (and freedom to suffer the consequences of your choice), because the nanny state knows what’s best for you?

Do you even see where this thinking leads? “People are too stupid to own guns because someone will get hurt” followed by random “stories” in the news meant to instill fear.

“So for that and other reasons already stated, it’s just not something I’d champion for anyone outside the amazonian jungle or african savannah.”

What does that even mean? It is already used in the US for other conditions - it is not some obscure, witch doctor medicine.

Japan’s Ministry of Health just approved its use for Covid based on the research. 30% of the world is using Covid: https://ivmstatus.com/

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You may not realize it but you actually made an argument for the FDA to approve ivermectin for off-label use. If the horse paste is so scary, it is a simple fix. The CDC and the FDA could simply say it’s ok to try along with other therapies. The decades of studies in humans show it’s safe, the side effects are much less threatening than those of the vaccine as well as less prevalent.

BUT remember how much money they would lose. Pfizer’s contract locks them in to the “vaccine” even if effective treatments or a cure is found:

“Purchaser acknowledges and agrees that (i) Pfizer’s efforts to develop and manufacture the Product are aspirational in nature and subject to significant risks and uncertainties, and (ii) the fact that any other drug or vaccine to prevent, treat or cure COVID-19 infection is successfully developed or granted authorization earlier than the granting of Authorization for the Product shall not change the current situation of urgent needs for prevention of the spread of the COVID-19 infection that poses serious threats to and harmful effects on the lives and health of the general public.”

2.1b http://ti-health.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Albania-Pfizer.pdf


54 posted on 08/27/2021 7:34:11 AM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: blueplum

58 posted on 08/27/2021 4:00:51 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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