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To: RandFan
We will not be rid of them until Jesus returns. It all started with Ishmael, the son of Hagar, Abram's concubine:
He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone’s hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers.
—Genesis 16:12

6 posted on 08/26/2021 7:12:34 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late." —Bob Dylan)
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To: Albion Wilde

Bingo. But god also saved Hagar’s son when she deserted him for lack of water after Abram exiled her. So evidently that was also part of god’s plan.


29 posted on 08/26/2021 7:28:30 PM PDT by Fungi
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