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Rolling Stones drummer Charlie Watts dead at 80
Associated Press ^ | 8/24/21 | Unknown

Posted on 08/24/2021 9:42:43 AM PDT by Levy78

LONDON (AP) — A publicist says Rolling Stones drummer Charlie Watts has died at age 80.


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To: ought-six

Yes even Mick Jagger indirectly said as much about Mick Taylor.

I suspect the Stones will continue without Charlie. Charlie was a great drummer that worked well for the Stones. But when you get down to it the core of the Stones has always been Mick Jagger + Keith Richards.


141 posted on 08/24/2021 3:33:20 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: plain talk
I'm thinking Mick Jagger and Keith Richards will still be the core of the band in the year 2043 - when the two of them will be 100 years old.

That's almost 10 albums away. I think their best material is yet to come.

142 posted on 08/24/2021 3:35:24 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (Give me a Pigfoot and a Bottle of Beer)
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To: Levy78

“.......don’t forget to put roses on his grave”


143 posted on 08/24/2021 3:57:34 PM PDT by HandyDandy
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To: SamAdams76

I certainly hope so and wish them well. Jagger has had some heart issues but he also has maintained an intense workout regime. That guy is a ball of energy. Richards seems to be too stubborn to die - thus far.

Eventually aging catches up with all of us.


144 posted on 08/24/2021 3:57:51 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: ought-six
The Stones should have kept Mick Taylor, one of the greatest guitarists ever; and he never got the kudos he deserved.

I think he got plenty of kudos from people who really know music. Not so much from casual listeners. I've read and listened to a few interviews of him about the subject of his leaving. He said he mostly left because it was boring. He viewed the Stones as little more than a garage band. He wasn't being challenged enough for it to be interesting to him. Good for him to move on instead of just hanging out to get a paycheck.

145 posted on 08/24/2021 4:09:08 PM PDT by KevinB (''... and to the Banana Republic for which it stands ...")
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To: Eccl 10:2
"And the band isn’t very tight, usually."

That's the reason they sounded like a garage band and proud of it. While Keith plays on the down beat as does the bass player, Charlie would play just behind and Mick sang just ahead of it. Listen to Charlie's crash symbols - they are micro-seconds later, along with his snare. This is what makes them unique in rock while most bands had all on same down beat, some instruments would get loss in the mix, which the producer would turn those up. Of course all Stones kept the same tempo (speed) and didn't do that off-beat thing on all their songs.

I could have the above off beat reversed for Charlie and Mick, but don't think so since I've played my drums to Stones classics. Run Honky Tonk Women through your mind from Charlie's intro of snare, tom, floor bass (crack..tum,bump - then his regular hi-hat, snare, bass pattern) and listen to when Keith comes in. Mick's singing is obviously ahead of Charlie and Keith.

Gimme Shelter is another good example. Keith and the female vocalist do the haunting into and Charlie comes in with his snare chha, chha, chha, ccha...chacrack/crash behind Keith. It continues throughout the song.

146 posted on 08/24/2021 4:14:46 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (USA Birth Certificate - 1787. Death Certificate - 2021. )
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To: dfwgator
If IIRC, Baker was the first hard rock (matal?) drummer and the first with two bass drums. He really got my attention with Sunshine of Your Love. I think I read that Bonham of Zep said he was a big influence, along with Bonham's favorites of Buddy Rich and Gene Krupa. All great drummers in their own style and time.

However, I have never been impressed with gigantor kit drummers like Keith Moon and big hair bands. While that gives the drummer more notes to hit, they often don't work with the band while going crazy all over trying to stand out from the front players. I believe that less is more and those drummers have to really try harder and devise new beats in whatever time signature. Copeland of the Police was the last I knew of such a drummer. But then, I don't keep up...pun intended.

My current Roland E-drums consist of the basics. Hi-hat, 2 crash cymbals in different notes, ride cymbal, snare, 2 toms in different notes and the bass drum. Being electronic, I can adjust the volume and the pitch of each. Love it!

147 posted on 08/24/2021 4:43:26 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (USA Birth Certificate - 1787. Death Certificate - 2021. )
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To: rktman; Levy78; All

I was out and about on my errands today when I heard the news, and I’ve been listening to Charlie Watts and the Stones every song since then. I am so sad and yet, Charlie entertained us all. Along with the others, but tonight, Charlie is my focus. I am a long time Stones fan, and I’m so grateful that I’ve been able to see them play live twice.

God bless Charlie Watts, the finest most humble drummer. God bless The Rolling Stones, too. He is sorely missed.

RIP, Charlie.


148 posted on 08/24/2021 5:34:17 PM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: rktman
"For the jams/open mikes i usually use a Fender Blues Junior amp. For my axe? Depends on the day"

I don't recall a Fender Blues Junior amp. I had a Twin Reverb for my last bar gig...waaaay back - no PA system. That thing was heavy for its size. I also remember the Fender Bassman and Fender Deluxe. What guitars do you have, if I may ask?

Only a rhythm player here, but know of many classic guitars. After selling my Fender Strat (pre-CBS) I only have an Ovation acoustic that I rarely pickup. I'm a drummer and some times lead singer on the drums back when. That's a tough gig, from basic beat to melody. Yes, I'm that bitchen.

149 posted on 08/24/2021 5:40:26 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (USA Birth Certificate - 1787. Death Certificate - 2021. )
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To: Eccl 10:2

Yes, Wild Horses is up there in pitch and one of the Stones best slow songs. Also had a connected melody interlude to the rest of the song.


150 posted on 08/24/2021 5:45:08 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (USA Birth Certificate - 1787. Death Certificate - 2021. )
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To: xp38

I’ll have to consider that. The best I’ve seen live Stones video is Bridges to Babylon, but standard resolution and in 4.3 aspect ratio. If they remastered that video into 16.9 or wider and cleaned up from the master tapes, I’d buy in a heart beat.


151 posted on 08/24/2021 5:52:06 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (USA Birth Certificate - 1787. Death Certificate - 2021. )
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To: SamAdams76

You’re joking, right? I think their song-writing careers are behind them now. I have their recent recordings and they are mostly a re-hash of early stuff. The last album I can remember them having some hits was Bridges to Babylon. I may be forgetting others.


152 posted on 08/24/2021 5:56:13 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (USA Birth Certificate - 1787. Death Certificate - 2021. )
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To: A Navy Vet

I’m with you on a less is more approach. Roger Hawkins who passed away recently was another one who played with relative simplicity and of course great, great feel.


153 posted on 08/24/2021 6:20:18 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: FamiliarFace

I love Charlie Watts.
No one impressed him.
Not even the Rolling Stones.


154 posted on 08/24/2021 6:22:39 PM PDT by smvoice (I WILL NOT WEAR THE RIBBON. OR THE MASK)
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To: smvoice

*** I love Charlie Watts.
No one impressed him.
Not even the Rolling Stones.***

Perfect! I love this more than you know!

(You do know that is tag line worthy, don’t you?)


155 posted on 08/24/2021 7:26:26 PM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: dfwgator

Miss Dusty and ZZ. Another of my favorite bands.


156 posted on 08/24/2021 7:39:04 PM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: KevinB

Lol, after he matured some, I think he avoided most of these. Did he ever give up weed? I don’t know the answer.


157 posted on 08/24/2021 7:41:38 PM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: xp38

Gotta look into getting that.


158 posted on 08/24/2021 7:44:23 PM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: A Navy Vet

Mick Taylor has said in a couple of interviews that if he hadn’t left the Stones he wouldn’t be alive.


159 posted on 08/24/2021 7:52:46 PM PDT by Palio di Siena
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To: Eccl 10:2
R.I.P.
160 posted on 08/24/2021 7:53:29 PM PDT by Texan4Life
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