Posted on 08/23/2021 10:27:51 AM PDT by BRL
I work for a large corporation and I am quite certain that they are very strongly considering mandating the vaccination for all of the employees.
So Pfizer gets approved today. On the surface, that seems like a bad thing. However, as I think about it, how does the company use the approval of one vaccine to make a mandate for all of the employees. It seems to me if they mandate the vaccine then they must mandate the approved vaccine , but if they mandate the approved vaccine then two thirds of their workforce is working without the approved vaccine.
I think this can twist into a real cluster quickly for corporations that use the "approval" as the basis of justifying the vaccine mandate.
This EUA will be effective until the declaration that circumstances exist justifying the
authorization of the emergency use of drugs and biological products during the COVID-19
pandemic is terminated under Section 564(b)(2) of the Act or the EUA is revoked under Section
564(g) of the Act.
Can I get this translated into English please?
Pfizer is still under “Emergency Use” so no FDA Approval?
A twist on an Abbot and Costello “Who’s on First” routine to expose a different kind of lunacy:
Bud: ‘You can’t come in here!’
Lou: ‘Why not?’
Bud: ‘Well because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But I’m not sick.’
Bud: ‘It doesn’t matter.’
Lou: ‘Well, why does that guy get to go in?’
Bud: ‘Because he’s vaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But he’s sick!’
Bud: ‘It’s alright. Everyone in here is vaccinated.’
Lou: ‘Wait a minute. Are you saying everyone in there is vaccinated?’
Bud: ‘Yes.’
Lou: ‘So then why can’t I go in there if everyone is vaccinated?’
Bud: ‘Because you’ll make them sick.’
Lou: ‘How will I make them sick if I’m NOT sick and they’re vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But they’re vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘But they can still get sick.’
Lou: ‘So what the heck does the vaccine do?’
Bud: ‘It vaccinates.’
Lou: ‘So vaccinated people can’t spread covid?’
Bud: ‘Oh no. They can spread covid just as easily as an unvaccinated person.’
Lou: ‘I don’t even know what I’m saying anymore. Look. I’m not sick.
Bud: ‘Ok.’
Lou: ‘And the guy you let in IS sick.’
Bud: ‘That’s right.’
Lou: ‘And everybody in there can still get sick even though they’re vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘Certainly.’
Lou: ‘So why can’t I go in again?’
Bud: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘I’m not asking who’s vaccinated or not!’
Bud: ‘I’m just telling you how it is.’
Lou: ‘Nevermind. I’ll just put on my mask.’
Bud: ‘That’s fine.’
Lou: ‘Now I can go in?’
Bud: ‘Absolutely not?’
Lou: ‘But I have a mask!’
Bud: ‘Doesn’t matter.’
Lou: ‘I was able to come in here yesterday with a mask.’
Bud: ‘I know.’
Lou: So why can’t I come in here today with a mask? ….If you say ‘because I’m unvaccinated’ again, I’ll break your arm.’
Bud: ‘Take it easy buddy.’
Lou: ‘So the mask is no good anymore.’
Bud: ‘No, it’s still good.’
Lou: ‘But I can’t come in?’
Bud: ‘Correct.’
Lou: ‘Why not?’
Bud: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But the mask prevents the germs from getting out.’
Bud: ‘Yes, but people can still catch your germs.’
Lou: ‘But they’re all vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘Yes, but they can still get sick.’
Lou: ‘But I’m not sick!!’
Bud: ‘You can still get them sick.’
Lou: ‘So then masks don’t work!’
Bud: ‘Masks work quite well.’
Lou: ‘So how in the heck can I get vaccinated people sick if I’m not sick and masks work?’
Bud: ‘Third base.’
And...scene...
Once everything is approved then decisions really have to start being made concerning getting the shot or shots.
based on what is in the document RushIsMyTeddyBear linked, this is an EUA extension and NOT approval. Gee, the press got it wrong again? /s
“It seems to me if they mandate the vaccine then they must mandate the approved vaccine , but if they mandate the approved vaccine then two thirds of their workforce is working without the approved vaccine.”
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“Henceforth, all employees must have some vaccine for Covid-19; it may be any such vaccine, but if employees are unwilling to obtain any other one, then they must as a condition of future employment obtain the Pfizer vaccine (which has been approved by the FDA.”
Some have suggested mixing the Pfizer with the Moderna, either 1:1 or 2:1 for the case of a booster. There may be some theoretical sense to that for broader protection. I think Israel, which used mostly Pfizer, has ordered a lot of the Moderna to be used as boosters.
I am unaware of any data suggesting people can safely mix the J&J with the other two. I am unaware of any data that it is safe to take 2 shots of the J&J.
“ I am unaware of any data suggesting people can safely mix the J&J with the other two. I am unaware of any data that it is safe to take 2 shots of the J&J.”
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They want everyone to get on the Pfizer program, I don’t think any data we are looking at matters.
Whatever reason they have for their actions, aside from Pfizer profit, remains to be seen.
Goalposts being moved? If it’s ANYBODY that’s moving the goalposts, it’s the Covidian statists like YOU.
“Nutcases”? You’re such a statist. What happened to individual freedom? “My body my choice” for chopping up babies, but not for your almighty vax? I STILL won’t take it.
Do I read that right?
All they did was to extend the EAU?
I’m not a lab bat.
Instead of,I’m not a animal.
THANK YOU!
goalposts being moved by the anti-vax crowd.
***WTF? First of all, I aint anti-vax so kiss off with that straw characterization. I was very pro-vax, having contracted Whooping Cough as a child which easily could have been prevented if we’d been vaccinated.
But this thing aint a vaccine. Vaccines prevent contracting the disease, which gene therapy sequences can’t and don’t do. Vaccines also prevent spreading the disease, which these things don’t do. I’m a pro-vax anti-messengerRNA gene therapy experimental sequencer. If you inject horse manure into your veins and call it a vaccine, that doesn’t make it a vaccine.
Secondly, what is it with FORCING everyone to take a bullshiite horse manure experimental ‘vaccine’? My body my choice.
This episode in politics has drawn out the statists from the woodwork inside conservatism.
The FDA approved the vax for 16 and over. The EUA was extended for 12-15. It also applies to existing Pfizer vaccine that was produced and labeled prior to FDA approval.
From “RushIsMyTeddyBear’s” link:
AA. COMIRNATY (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) is now licensed for individuals 16 years of age and older. There remains, however, a significant amount of PfizerBioNTech COVID-19 vaccine that was manufactured and labeled in accordance with this emergency use authorization. This authorization thus remains in place with respect to that product for the previously-authorized indication and uses (i.e., for use to prevent COVID-19 in individuals 12 years of age and older with a two-dose regimen, and to provide a third dose to individuals 12 years of age or older who have undergone solid organ transplantation, or who are diagnosed with conditions that are considered to have an equivalent level of immunocompromise).
BB. This authorization also covers the use of the licensed COMIRNATY (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) product when used to provide a two-dose regimen for individuals aged 12 through 15 years, or to provide a third dose to individuals 12 years of age or older who have undergone solid organ transplantation or who are diagnosed with conditions that are considered to have an equivalent level of immunocompromise. Conditions A through W in this letter apply when COMIRNATY (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) is provided for the uses described in this subsection III.BB, except that product manufactured and labeled in accordance with the approved BLA is deemed to satisfy the manufacturing, labeling, and distribution requirements of this authorization.
Now, here’s a link to the actual FDA Approval (BLA)
https://www.fda.gov/media/151710/download
See post 34 to understand what that link really is. It’s not what people here are claiming. Of course, that’s the case with much of what gets posted around here.
NOT GETTING THE JAB!!!!
based on what is in the document RushIsMyTeddyBear linked, this is an EUA extension and NOT approval. Gee, the press got it wrong again? /s
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-approves-first-covid-19-vaccine
I heard all the FDA did was issue a letter extending the emergency use approval.
WT*?!?!
Went to page 12.
So this is in reality just a continuation of the EUA?!
No they can mandate you be vaccinated. Those already vaccinated are good. Going forward if you insist on getting the Pfizer vaccine that’s your
choice.
But nice try.
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