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1984 The Movie George Orwell 1956
Allan Norstrand ^ | 12/14/20 | Allan Norstrand

Posted on 08/17/2021 1:24:36 AM PDT by DallasBiff

A lot to learn from this movie.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: 1984; georgeorwell; orwell
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I'm surprised, this is still on youtube.

It's the 1956 film, colorized(a late 1980's term when black and white films and tv shows were "colorized" by computer).

Watched the whole video, and Orwell was a prophet.

1 posted on 08/17/2021 1:24:36 AM PDT by DallasBiff
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To: DallasBiff

The current situation is 1984.


2 posted on 08/17/2021 1:47:32 AM PDT by ifinnegan ( Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: DallasBiff

The instruction manual for the left.


3 posted on 08/17/2021 2:06:09 AM PDT by ArcadeQuarters (No RINOs ever again! Remember 2020!)
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To: DallasBiff

You can bundle Animal Farm, 1984, and Brave New World on your electronic tablet.
I would say we are a cross between Brave New World and 1984.


4 posted on 08/17/2021 2:59:24 AM PDT by GranTorino (Bloody Lips Save Ships.)
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To: GranTorino

I agree.

INGSOC is emerging right now. So many useful idiots think they will be included in the top of the pyramid.


5 posted on 08/17/2021 3:01:52 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: ad ferre non, velit esse sine defensione)
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To: DallasBiff

I didn’t know there was a PRE 1980 version..


6 posted on 08/17/2021 3:19:09 AM PDT by Bikkuri (If you're conservative, you're an "extremist." If you're liberal, you're an "activist.")
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To: GranTorino
Don't forget to add On The Beach.
7 posted on 08/17/2021 3:21:10 AM PDT by Bikkuri (If you're conservative, you're an "extremist." If you're liberal, you're an "activist.")
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To: GranTorino
A former cultural critic, Neil Postman, wrote this Forward to his book, Amusing Ourselves to Death:

We were keeping our eye on 1984. When the year came and the prophecy didn’t, thoughtful Americans sang softly in praise of themselves. The roots of liberal democracy had held. Wherever else the terror had happened, we, at least, had not been visited by Orwellian nightmares.

But we had forgotten that alongside Orwell’s dark vision, there was another - slightly older, slightly less well known, equally chilling: Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World. Contrary to common belief even among the educated, Huxley and Orwell did not prophesy the same thing. Orwell warns that we will be overcome by an externally imposed oppression. But in Huxley’s vision, no Big Brother is required to deprive people of their autonomy, maturity and history. As he saw it, people will come to love their oppression, to adore the technologies that undo their capacities to think.

What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one. Orwell feared those who would deprive us of information. Huxley feared those who would give us so much that we would be reduced to passivity and egoism. Orwell feared that the truth would be concealed from us. Huxley feared the truth would be drowned in a sea of irrelevance. Orwell feared we would become a captive culture. Huxley feared we would become a trivial culture, preoccupied with some equivalent of the feelies, the orgy porgy, and the centrifugal bumblepuppy. As Huxley remarked in Brave New World Revisited, the civil libertarians and rationalists who are ever on the alert to oppose tyranny “failed to take into account man’s almost infinite appetite for distractions”. In 1984, Huxley added, people are controlled by inflicting pain. In Brave New World, they are controlled by inflicting pleasure. In short, Orwell feared that what we hate will ruin us. Huxley feared that what we love will ruin us.

This book is about the possibility that Huxley, not Orwell, was right.

8 posted on 08/17/2021 3:31:04 AM PDT by MarDav
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To: Bikkuri
I didn’t know there was a PRE 1980 version..

There is no "1980 version." You are perhaps thinking of the version filmed in London in the actual year of 1984 and starring Richard Burton.

The 1954 BBC version starring Peter Cushing as "Winston Smith" is also quite good.

Regards,

9 posted on 08/17/2021 3:34:58 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: MarDav
What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one. Orwell feared those who would deprive us of information. Huxley feared those who would give us so much that we would be reduced to passivity and egoism. Orwell feared that the truth would be concealed from us. Huxley feared the truth would be drowned in a sea of irrelevance. Orwell feared we would become a captive culture. Huxley feared we would become a trivial culture, preoccupied with some equivalent of the feelies, the orgy porgy, and the centrifugal bumblepuppy. As Huxley remarked in Brave New World Revisited, the civil libertarians and rationalists who are ever on the alert to oppose tyranny “failed to take into account man’s almost infinite appetite for distractions”. In 1984, Huxley added, people are controlled by inflicting pain. In Brave New World, they are controlled by inflicting pleasure. In short, Orwell feared that what we hate will ruin us. Huxley feared that what we love will ruin us.

Excellent summation!

Regards,

10 posted on 08/17/2021 3:36:33 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek
"You are perhaps thinking of the version filmed in London in the actual year of 1984 and starring Richard Burton."


Yes, that is the one I saw (after reading the book, at least 2 times)..
11 posted on 08/17/2021 3:37:01 AM PDT by Bikkuri ('You are perhaps thinking of the version filmed in London in the actual year of 1984 and starring Ri)
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To: ifinnegan

Clockwork Orange also comes to mind.


12 posted on 08/17/2021 4:10:40 AM PDT by lilypad
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To: alexander_busek

The 80’s version released IN 1984 . John Hurt - one of my fave actors of all time - was really the star , not Burton . Great flick .


13 posted on 08/17/2021 4:26:25 AM PDT by sushiman
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To: DallasBiff

Bkmk


14 posted on 08/17/2021 4:34:58 AM PDT by sauropod (Time is like quicksilver, smearing the years... - Bill Nelson)
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To: DallasBiff

In Orwell’s most feverish nightmares he could have never imagined a modern police state with modern surveillance technology. Today Big Brother doesn’t just watch you, he lives with and often times thinks for you. Once the new fascist regime is ensconced in DC it will become permanent.


15 posted on 08/17/2021 4:50:04 AM PDT by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: MarDav

It looks like Huxley is winning the race so far. Orwell will take the prize once we run out of distractions.
Besides pot (soma) the interweb seems to fulfill most of Huxley’s provided pleasures.
It’s been made more obvious the last year that many people already love their oppression.
It’s interesting to me that Huxley took a strong dose of LSD hours before his death.


16 posted on 08/17/2021 5:31:17 AM PDT by GranTorino (Bloody Lips Save Ships.)
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To: GranTorino

You: “It looks like Huxley is winning the race so far...”

Postman: “As he saw it, people will come to love their oppression, to adore the technologies that undo their capacities to think.”

Me: Uh-huh....


17 posted on 08/17/2021 6:24:36 AM PDT by MarDav
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To: sushiman
The 80’s version released IN 1984 . John Hurt - one of my fave actors of all time - was really the star , not Burton . Great flick .

This was Richard Burton's last role before he died. He did die relatively young, but that's what being married to Liz Taylor twice would do to any man.

Also there was controversy back in 1984, when "1984' came out with the Wham song "Sex Crimes" was used as the theme.

Boy have times have changed.

18 posted on 08/17/2021 11:21:05 AM PDT by DallasBiff (Lautenberg The Forefather of "The Nanny State!")
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To: DallasBiff
‘’1984’’ isn't prophecy. “1984’’ is a warning.

It's a warning of what people will do in the pursuit, the acquisition, gaining , and administration of power for evil , malicious and all controlling ends.

19 posted on 08/17/2021 12:17:13 PM PDT by jmacusa (America. Founded by geniuses . Now governed by idiots.)
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To: Blueflag

80 million Buyden voters who think that they will be the Inner Party …


20 posted on 08/17/2021 1:42:39 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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