Everything I said is absolute fact. And I will stand by it without shame. Does your faith teach you to lie to yourself about true history?
Were the books written by the hand of man? Yes.
Were the stories handed down for many many years before they were actually written? Yes.
Have they been translated and edited many many times? Yes.
Even today...Is There currently only ONE version???
All the fanatical disillusions in the world cannot change fact.
You live in a fantasy world if you actually believe any other than this historic reality.
Are they true? I will give the benefit of the doubt as I always have. The Bible has pointed to too many unknown buried locations not to.
But you never asked or gave me the benefit of the doubt. You immediately wanted to burn me at the stake. And even worse... I think at some point you actually realized you might be wrong about me.
But rather than be self accountable you still continue to keep up the holy hunt even over what your own conscience is telling you. You really need to have that looked at...
Everything I said is absolute fact.
***Having gone round & round with you and caught you in dishonesties, I know this is not the case.
And I will stand by it without shame.
***Then stand by it. You claim extrabiblical bullshiite. Let’s throw down on that historicity.
Does your faith teach you to lie to yourself about true history?
***I can prove that the faith of 2 million christians is based on a historical fact that He died on a cross for blasphemy. Even His enemies acknowledge this claim. I doubt your faith gives you an honest assessment about this historically provable fact. Especially seein’ how slippery you are.
Were the books written by the hand of man? Yes.
***Are you a man? Yes. Can YOU be wrong? Yes. Your point is pure stupidity. You are going down a path of anti-historicity and anti-science and anti-faith, so you deserve the table turning treatment.
Were the stories handed down for many many years before they were actually written? Yes.
***NO. Wrong. The earliest fragments like the Rylands Papyri date to about the year 130 which is only 1 generation after the events themselvs, and they came from Egypt so they needed years to travel that far. Your theory is CRITICALLY dependent on this bullshiite of coming up with intervening years so that oral traditions can creep in but there is very little fragment or manuscript evidence for it. So you’re pushing a fringe theory, a heretical one, an anti-science theory.
Have they been translated and edited many many times? Yes.
***NO. They can be translated TODAY. Since they are so old there is no intervening translations on the oldest manuscripts, which just so happen to agree with the later manuscripts. SO your theory is toast.
Even today...Is There currently only ONE version???
***There are dozens. But that is the source of solution, not a problem. When you have dozens of sources you can cross-reference for an event you can get to the actual historicity of that event.
All the fanatical disillusions in the world cannot change fact.
***Kiss off, heretic. You are the one engaging a fantasy here.
You live in a fantasy world if you actually believe any other than this historic reality.
***Now everyone can see the real you, a heretic. So let’s open a historicity thread like you wanted to do with Lurker, like I accepted. Let’s throw down on the historicity of the new testament starting with the free online book “New Testament Documents, Are they Reliable?” by eminent historian FF Bruce.
https://www.cob-net.org/compare/nt-documents-reliable-bruce.pdf
Are they true?
***I will not trust YOU with a single mustard seed of truth. You’re simply a lyin’ weasel.
I will give the benefit of the doubt as I always have.
***You get none from me. You’re already maneuvering to push your anti-historicity heresy and I will counter it.
The Bible has pointed to too many unknown buried locations not to.
***You do not know what you are talking about. The Hittites are a great example. Bible was the only ancient book that mentioned them so naturally guys like you who like to argue fallaciously tried to argue from silence and said they didnt’ exist, that is until there was a major archaeological find of a relatively big Hittite city. You guys are so disingenuous because not one of your ilk ever went back and said you were wrong. No honesty.
But you never asked or gave me the benefit of the doubt.
***I do not give heretics the benefit of the doubt. You do not deserve it.
You immediately wanted to burn me at the stake.
***Evocative language, heretic. I wanted to debate you and I told you I would continue to knock down all your fallacies, which prove to be many, very very many.
And even worse... I think at some point you actually realized you might be wrong about me.
***Here your’e trying to tell me what I think. I am not wrong when I post up that you are a heretic.
But rather than be self accountable you still continue to keep up the holy hunt even over what your own conscience is telling you.
***Again using that mind reading fallacy. Have you ever put together a full paragraph without a classic fallacy? I sincerely doubt it.
You really need to have that looked at...
***You really need to take that critical thinking class, heretic.
Gosh I am amazed you are not zotted. Thank your lucky stars you survived your Opus. Maybe stick around a while and contribute to the fundraisers when you can afford it. Pretty soon you will figure out the dress code. For a while we had a ClassyGreenEyedBlond - did not last — even the PissedOffJanitor did not make it. Kevmo is the real deal and should be respected.
I thought for sure the Viking Kitties would have paid a visit - the smell of ozone was so strong.
Yes I am a Catholic man. We are respectful about each others’ religion here.
You must not read your Bible very often, you’ll see that Moses was told to write down the words that God spoke to him. If you want to claim that there’s any portion of the Bible that may have been passed down orally, then the only book that that would be is the Book of Genesis and even then it probably wouldn’t be an all chapters of Genesis, we just don’t know, but the book of Exodus was plainly spoken by God to Moses and Moses was told to write it down. I don’t know what religion you claim to be from but that’s a very basic Bible truth.