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To: WildHighlander57
Ok, think this through.

https://www.redcross.org/about-us/news-and-events/news/2021/answers-to-common-questions-about-covid-19-vaccines-and-blood-platelet-plasma-donation-eligibility.html

Q: What is the different between COVID-19 antibodies that you develop from exposure to the virus and antibodies you develop as a reaction to the vaccine? A: Antibodies that an individual produces when they’ve been exposed to the virus are slightly different from the antibodies that an individual produces when they’ve been vaccinated. When an individual has been infected with a virus, they produce antibodies to multiple regions of a virus, including the nucleocapsid protein. An individual who has received a COVID-19 vaccine will produce antibodies to the spike protein of the virus, but not the nucleocapsid protein, which will only occur in the event of a COVID-19 infection.

Now:

Q: I’ve heard claims that the Red Cross refuses to accept convalescent plasma from individuals who have received a COVID-19 vaccine because it wipes out the antibodies. Is this true? ---> A: There are claims circulating that incorrectly state that the Red Cross will not accept convalescent plasma donations from those who have received the COVID-19 vaccine because “the vaccine wipes out those antibodies making the convalescent plasma ineffective in treating other COVID-19 patients.” This is not accurate.

(((However))) ---> Due to the decline in hospital demand and because the Red Cross and our industry partners have been able to build a sufficient supply of convalescent plasma to meet the foreseeable needs of COVID-19 patients the Red Cross stopped collecting convalescent plasma completely on June 14.

BUT - then further down the page --->

One of the Red Cross requirements for plasma from routine blood and platelet donations that test positive for high-levels of antibodies to be used as convalescent plasma is that it must be from a donor that has not received a COVID-19 vaccine. This is to ensure that antibodies collected from donors have sufficient antibodies directly related to their immune response to a COVID-19 infection and not just the vaccine, as antibodies from an infection and antibodies from a vaccine are not the same.

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Anyone see the problems? Read the whole page and reconcile.

1,637 posted on 08/18/2021 4:12:45 AM PDT by Ymani Cricket ( "Pressure Makes Diamonds" ~General Patton)
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To: Ymani Cricket

Very very interesting info!!

But some errors; first answer says wait 2 weeks, but second answer says within 6 months.

1)
Q: Are individuals who received a COVID-19 vaccine eligible to give blood, platelets and plasma?

...
If you do not know the name of the vaccine manufacturer, we request you wait two weeks to donate after vaccination, out of precaution.

2)

Q: Are individuals who received a COVID-19 vaccine eligible to give COVID-19 convalescent plasma?

A: The FDA allows people who have received a COVID-19 vaccine to donate dedicated COVID-19 convalescent plasma within six months of their infection of the virus, based on data that antibodies from natural infection can decline after six months however, the Red Cross has discontinued our convalescent plasma collection program.

Other problems:

1) Supply problem, because they based demand on the original virus’ effect on hospitalizations?

2) efficacy; banked convalescent plasma was from folks that recovered from the original virus, whereas now there’s a variant virus going around, which have different spikes?

Question:

Is the convalescent plasma effective against India/Delta variant?


1,647 posted on 08/18/2021 5:31:20 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000) )
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To: Ymani Cricket
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Ymani Cricket wrote:
Ok, think this through.

https://www.redcross.org/about-us/news-and-events/news/2021/answers-to-common-questions-about-covid-19-vaccines-and-blood-platelet-plasma-donation-eligibility.html

Q: What is the different between COVID-19 antibodies that you develop from exposure to the virus and antibodies you develop as a reaction to the vaccine? A: Antibodies that an individual produces when they’ve been exposed to the virus are slightly different from the antibodies that an individual produces when they’ve been vaccinated. When an individual has been infected with a virus, they produce antibodies to multiple regions of a virus, including the nucleocapsid protein. An individual who has received a COVID-19 vaccine will produce antibodies to the spike protein of the virus, but not the nucleocapsid protein, which will only occur in the event of a COVID-19 infection.

There is an early social media report in which a man died abruptly within 2 weeks (or less, I forget) of getting 'vaccinated'. His doctor stated that the man had antibodies that were distinct from those obtained through natural infection.

Back then the Deep State was trying to discredit assertions that China's Covid-19 genome, which it gave to the world on January 10, 2020, can not be accurate because they said they didn't have isolated samples of the virus, as did the CDC throughout the plandemic. 

Since the patient's antibodies were different, that would prove the genome upon which the vaccine was based is wrong. So every instance of that man's story was scrubbed and denied.

But then wiley researchers said, "Oh, Okay, we can't have isolated samples needed to figure out what's going on? Alright, we'll use the genome for the spike proteins which we know you DO have, we'll attach those spike proteins to some other harmless virus and test THAT.

So researchers were able to prove, without isolated samples of the virus, which some say don't exist (could be just spike proteins and/or some doses are graphene Oxide), that the spike protein is harmful. 

But once spike proteins were proven catastrophic, the Deep STate now has said, "Well the 'vaccine' doesn't include instructions to make the toxic capsid! (portion of the spike). Dr. Fleming then asked the question, "Well if the spike protein in the 'vaccine' doesn't contain the toxic capsid, then why do 'vaccianted' people develop antibodies  to the capsid?" (my paraphrasing, I believe he was saying capsid antibodies have been documented in the 'vaccinated').

So then the Deep State is saying, "NO! Our vaccine causes people to create different antibodies!"

White hat virologists say, "We know. There are no isolated samples, you didn't use an accurate genome, and the vaccine has no beneficial action against Covid!"

Then the Deep State says, "No! The vaccinated DO make slightly different antibodies, but the difference is so minor, Covid won't notice...."

I believe the Deep State feels safer using this "slightly different" defense now because the public has seen so much of the research done with a dummy virus and spikes attached (created by the wiley researchers) that the public is less likely to believe accurate claims on the part of white hats that there still are no isolated samples of the virus available for research.

The public will likely assume all those researchers finding the spike is toxic or collecting in organs are using standard isolated samples - they are not. I doubt Covid exists outside compromised labs (it does exist) because people wiith the live virus in their bodies could be sources of the virus which could then be isolated, which the Deep State doesn't want.

The Deep State will say whatever it has to say on any given day, and that includes Rothschild's ("Red Shield" in Gernman) Red Cross, which they co-opted and captured shortly after it was created.

1,740 posted on 08/18/2021 10:06:58 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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