C-19 Pandemia: Quo vadis, homo sapiens? (vaccines make it worse)

https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/post/c-19-pandemia-quo-vadis-homo-sapiens ^ | 20210812 | Geert Vanden Bossche

[DugwayDuke]

I guess I need to say this again.

More of your strawman arguments. You want to hold the COVID vaccines to a standard that no vaccine has ever achieved. How many vaccines can you name that have 100% effective conferred life long immunity?

Yet for some reason you insist that the covid vaccines are a failure because they cannot meet a standard that few, if any, vaccines, vaccines considered highly effective, can meet.

[grey_whiskers]

You’re the clowns who promised herd immunity based on vaccines — even changing the supposed *definition* of herd immunity to include only jabs, and not natural immunity —that would stop the virus in its tracks.

Real world evidence from countries not under the thumb of Fauxi, proves it does not.

And you’re pulling the goalposts up your own ass now.
Just recently you trolls were bragging up a storm about polio and smallpox, that even they didn’t achieve 95% effectiveness, and yet wiped out those diseases.

The difference is that this virus (like a number of others) infects both humans and animals and has an animal resevoir.
Unless YOU want to be the one putting masks on all the deer.

Troll.

[palmer]

If vaccine resistant strains become dominant that is a problem for the vaccinated not the unvaccinated. They face a different threat: escape mutations from the reinfected, unvaccinated. Obviously both groups can get the other's escape mutations.

As for Fauci, yes, investigate and prosecute. The best way to do that is win back the house and senate in 2022 with people who will investigate Fauci and Wuhan. The best way to do that is unite. Don't turn anti-vax into a campaign centerpiece or litmus test.

[palmer]

Occurrence of viral resistance to the C-19 vaccines implies that neutralizing Abs do no longer bind to Sars-CoV-2.

No it doesn't Vaccine resistant variants implies nothing about the capabilities of natural immunity. It could mean people are worse off vaccinated, That's what my original link says. But it does not imply anything about the unvaccinated and their natural immunity.

[palmer]

Just recently you trolls were bragging up a storm about polio and smallpox, that even they didn’t achieve 95% effectiveness, and yet wiped out those diseases.

Polio is not wiped out. Smallpox eradication almost failed: https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s11127-006-9079-z.pdf but succeeded due to lower spread and generous US funding.

[grey_whiskers]

Those diseases don’t have animal vectors to keep the pot boiling.

[palmer]

Ok, then we will agree on no vaccine mandates and make that a campaign centerpiece. Also we will agree on no masking of kids (and obviously no vaccination either). I think we can get a very large proportion of independents with those two policies.

[palmer]

First time I heard about deer is this thread. While that implies difficulty eradicating, we have eradicated aninal populations in the past for similar reasons, and we can probably greatly limit most animal to human transmissions.