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To: ransomnote

How does the threat of removal to hospice work as leverage? My understanding of hospice is that the care given is palliative, not curative, and this approach is a requirement for payment through Medicare/insurance. If the goal is to get the patient out of the hospital protocols to the preferred protocol with IV vitamins/minerals & a different steroid, can’t you just ask for dismissal AMA, i.e Against Medical Advice?

Not saying anything against what this woman did for her husband as it obviously was effective...I just want to understand these other issues that came to mind.


7 posted on 08/11/2021 7:02:57 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't. )
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To: T-Bird45

Well, I can say I know of a person nearly 70 years old who had O2 in the low 80s that was allowed to go home this morning.

He has been taking HCQ, Vitamin D and K2, zinc, quercetin, and Vitamin C and he is now doing better, already.


32 posted on 08/11/2021 8:53:08 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: T-Bird45

My hospice nurse friends explained that once a person goes into hospice, all med equipment and meds are available..whatever the patient wants or needs.

We found this to be true with my Dad. Toward the end of his life he struggled to breathe, and had pulse ox readings in the 80s. They would send him thru ER, admit him, patch him back up to where his readings were “acceptable” and send him home. He “did not qualify” for home oxygen. He would end up back in the ER two days later going thru the same process (Hours in the ER, test for Covid, same labs run two days prior, admit..send home.) It was infuriating

When we brought him home to hospice care, the 02 generator was delivered before the transport even got him home.


45 posted on 08/12/2021 9:41:36 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Back after a long hiatus. Now mygrandkidsgrandma)
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To: T-Bird45

Have full legal Power of Attorney. Medical and Durable.

Demand Hospice. Sign release and go.

From what we understand.


50 posted on 08/14/2021 2:22:00 AM PDT by Varsity Flight ( "War by the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18)
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