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To: Steve Van Doorn

Steve: “said, “Where, oh where, is there any proof P.Yoelli is a “bridge for malaria between mice and humans””

Maybe you’re getting hug up on the terms I use? I’m not sure.

The last report I gave the term they used “anophelines” (which means. a carry the malaria parasite and transmit the disease to humans)”

Me: Anopholine refers to a genus of mosquito (Anopholes). Some species of this genus are malaria vectors. Some transmit P. yoelli to rats and mice. Humans do not contract P. yoelli. It’s mousie ratty thing.

Steve: “Dr Perez referenced a source.
It’s even on Wikipedia.
here is another
Validation of Plasmodium vivax centromere and promoter activities using Plasmodium yoelii
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31860644/

Me: I don’t know what you think this proves. Researchers have been studying malaria in the lab using rats and mice for a very long time. The difficulty is they are stuck studying the murine strains and mucking about with gene manipulation. This hardly proves that P. yoelli could infest humans or produce vivax malaria in a human. You will find many, many mouse studies using transgenic P. Yoelii in an effort to produce a vaccine for P. falciparum. Like this one:https://malariajournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12936-016-1248-z

Steve: “asked, “human syffering from P. Yoelli”

They suffer from the symptoms that Plasmodium vivax give.”

Me: What on earth do you mean? Yes, Covid patients and patients who have contacted vivax may present with similar symptoms: fever, headache, fatigue, etc. So do those with the ‘flu. Similar symptoms do not equal Covid somehow miraculously causing malaria. You need actual malaria parasites for that.

Steve: “said, “severe does not always mean cerebral”
ok... that is fine. Though cerebral the key part of ‘brain fog’ which I believe is the cause of the problem with covid. Which we can go back to that later once you understand the vectors of malaria.”

Me: I understand the vectors of malaria just fine: certain species of the Anopholes mosquito.

Do you understand the symptoms of cerebral malaria? Seizures, delirium, coma, and other deathly fun stuff. Hardly brain fog.

In case you think brain fog means seizures, delirium, coma, etc., here you go:

https://www.healthline.com/health/covid-brain-fog

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Manifestations of severe malaria:

The manifestations of severe malaria differ depending on the age of the patient and previous exposure.1 In the first 2 years of life severe anaemia is a common presenting feature of severe malaria. In older children seizures and cerebral malaria predominate; whereas in adults acute renal failure, acute pulmonary oedema, liver dysfunction, and cerebral malaria may all occur. Metabolic acidosis, mainly a lactic acidosis, is common at all ages. Severe malaria is a multisystem disease, and the outcome often depends on the degree of vital organ dysfunction.

Link: https://jnnp.bmj.com/content/69/4/433
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Steve: “said, “falciparum is much more likely to go cerebral than vivax”
Either way it makes no difference the question is the vectors of malaria. Which you seem to now agree that vivax can lead to cerebral. Good.”

Me: It is quite rare, but it can happen:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19742268/

Why is the question vectors? Everyone knows mozzies are the vector for malaria.

Steve: “”Covid is not a vector-borne disease” Which you’re saying here is that covid doesn’t have P.Yoelli that forms the three spikes. Contrary to Perez report.”

Me: No, what I am saying is Covid is not a vector-borne disease. No mosquitoes, fleas, ticks or lice required. It is transmitted directly from human to human via respiratory droplets.

Do you not know what a disease vector is? Look it up!

Examples of vector-borne diseases are dengue fever (mosquitoes are the vector), Lyme disease (ticks are the vector), bubonic plague (fleas are the vector), Chagas disease (triatomine bugs are the vector), typhus (lice), leishmaniasis (sand flies) — well, you get the picture.

As for your assertion that P. Yoelli “form the three spikes” (I presume spikes on the SARS-COV-2 virus — I thought it had more than three lousy spikes) — if you mean a tual malaria parasites, how ridiculous can you get? Surely you cannot mean that.

If you mean the fragment of genetic material from P. Yoelii that Perez proposes was inserted in the lab, if you scroll down to Table 12 in the paper you posted here, you will see that as SARS-CoV-2 mutates, it preferentially deletes the P. Yoelii fragment. He cites this preferential jettisoning of the P. Yoelii fragment as proof that it was artificially inserted in the lab. If he is correct, and that trend has continued to play out, most SARS-CoV-2 now in existence has no P. Yoelii genetic material at all. None! Here is the link, so you can check for yourself:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/342926066_COVID-19_SARS_and_Bats_Coronaviruses_Genomes_Peculiar_Homologous_RNA_Sequences_Jean_Claude_perez_Luc_Montagnier

Perez makes a pretty good argument that SARS-CoV-2 was created in a lab. Here is another paper that supports that view and is more easily understood by we laymen:

https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/

Surely now you can see that SARS-CoV-2 does not somehow magically produce vivax malaria in Covid patients? And therefore doctors are not killing their patients with Decadron, but rather saving lives?


68 posted on 08/11/2021 11:08:36 AM PDT by CatHerd (Not a newbie - lost my password)
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To: CatHerd
Anopheles is a Greek term. For medical reasons to mean a carrier of diseases that contract to humans. That was used for a genus of mosquito.

said, "Humans do not contract P. yoelli"

We don't contract slugs either. Though we can contract the diseases the slug carries. I'm not sure why this is so difficult.

The rest of your post seems to be over similar miss understandings of basic communication.
I have to ask myself why?

example: "SARS-CoV-2 does not somehow magically produce vivax malaria in Covid patients"
I never said it does.
69 posted on 08/11/2021 1:35:03 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: CatHerd
yes the P. Yoelli spike does drop off after the S1 spike mutates. There are hundreds of mutations it forms into. Some of which are new munitions of covid. One is particularly concerning me.

said, "therefore doctors are not killing their patients with Decadron, but rather saving lives?"

Those doctors that prescribe Decadron are being miss lead in a very deadly way. I can't seem to explain why to you. Try to understand P. Yoelli is a carrier not the disease. Parasites can only carry specific types of diseases.

We don't seem to have a good line of communication. I'm sorry.
70 posted on 08/11/2021 2:13:49 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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