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Please, no Moore: 'Law' that defined how chips have been made for decades has run itself into a cul-de-sac
The Register ^ | 5 August 2021 | Rupert Goodwins

Posted on 08/06/2021 11:13:13 AM PDT by ShadowAce

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1 posted on 08/06/2021 11:13:13 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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2 posted on 08/06/2021 11:13:26 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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3 posted on 08/06/2021 11:19:51 AM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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The only reason it’s a “law” is because the MSM made it one. I very much doubt that Gordan Moore ever thought of it as a “law.”

Another in a long series of straw-man arguments put forward by the MSM to make themselves look clever, while showing themselves to be ignorant dip-excrements.


4 posted on 08/06/2021 11:29:08 AM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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From the Article:

In 1975, eight years after leaving Fairchild to co-found Intel, Moore revised his "law", actually just an observation, to a doubling every two years.

5 posted on 08/06/2021 11:32:17 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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In 1975, eight years after leaving Fairchild to co-found Intel, Moore revised his "law", actually just an observation, to a doubling every two years.

And a headline saying his "observation" has "run itself into a cul-de-sac" looks a lot sillier than one asserting that his "law" has done so.

6 posted on 08/06/2021 11:34:08 AM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: ShadowAce

What technologies have shaped and created society since WWII?

The birth control pill
The atom bomb
The silicon semiconductor


7 posted on 08/06/2021 11:35:49 AM PDT by PGR88
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OK then—how would you have written the headline, given the topic? The article is about how the current technology is running out of room to keep doubling.


8 posted on 08/06/2021 11:40:34 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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Its generally thought that the next great leap forward that make all moore’s law look incremental will be quantum computing. So instead of a doubling there will be a hundred fold increase in computing power. After that the combination of quantum computing and AI will take computing to places unimagined.


9 posted on 08/06/2021 11:44:36 AM PDT by ckilmer
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Bkmk


10 posted on 08/06/2021 11:45:44 AM PDT by sauropod (Amateurs built the ark; Professionals built the Titanic. Anon)
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Yup. Agreed. However, anything like that is not even in the lab yet. There are still a few steps to take between current state and that state.


11 posted on 08/06/2021 11:46:25 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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One technology that has had a huge impact on society is air conditioning. Just think about how things would be if Congress took 3 months off each year.

And how big would the Phoenix metro area be with no A/C?


12 posted on 08/06/2021 12:09:42 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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Moore revised his “law”, actually just an observation,
***Scientific laws are simply mathematically rigorous observations. There is a law of gravity, but no accepted theory of gravity.


13 posted on 08/06/2021 12:10:14 PM PDT by Kevmo (Right now there are 600 political prisoners in Washington, DC.)
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intel falling behind

go long on amd


14 posted on 08/06/2021 12:18:34 PM PDT by SteveH
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There is a law of gravity, but no accepted theory of gravity.

Actually, you have that backwards.

Exhibit 1

Exhibit 2

15 posted on 08/06/2021 12:23:14 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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//There are still a few steps to take between current state and that state.

Well, done. I think there are at least 3 puns in that one sentence, given the subject.

Something I’ve noticed in my computers is that we’re not getting the huge improvements in speed any more. I think the silicon generally has the power, but software hasn’t really caught up. My current desktop is an I-9 with 16 cores and 32GB of memory. I really don’t see it as being significantly more powerful, except in some very specific use cases, than the 8-core I7 I had 12 years ago.

OTOH, I can crank up 6 to 8 VMs and not notice significant lag from a CPU perspective with any of them. Granted, if one of them is doing significant disk work, it’s gonna slow down disk access to the others.


16 posted on 08/06/2021 12:25:36 PM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: ShadowAce

Nope. Not wrong.

The law of gravity is basically things fall at 9.8m/s^2

More than two score relativistic theories of gravitation have been proposed. Some have no metric; others take the metric as fixed, not dynamic.

Gravitational Theories
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+theories+of+gravity+are+there&source=hp&ei=vYwNYfzENriGwbkPkNOaiA0&iflsig=AINFCbYAAAAAYQ2azcNIcFIYZoq980FReRKfEU_y_UM_&oq=how+many+theories+of+gravi&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAEYADIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIYDMgUIABCGAzoRCC4QgAQQsQMQxwEQowIQkwI6CwgAEIAEELEDEIMBOggIABCABBCxAzoOCC4QgAQQsQMQxwEQowI6CAgAELEDEIMBOhEILhCABBCxAxCDARDHARCjAjoICC4QsQMQgwE6CAguEIAEELEDOgcIABCABBAKOgcILhCABBAKOgkIABANEEYQ-wE6BAgAEA06CggAEIAEEEYQ-wE6BggAEBYQHlCVGViWbWCMfGgGcAB4AIABlAOIAakskgEKMC4yMS45LjAuMZgBAKABAbABAA&sclient=gws-wiz


17 posted on 08/06/2021 12:28:04 PM PDT by Kevmo (Right now there are 600 political prisoners in Washington, DC.)
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The law of gravity is basically things fall at 9.8m/s^2

Only on Earth. Not the Moon, or Jupiter.

And yes--you are wrong. Gravity is, scientifically speaking, a theory.

18 posted on 08/06/2021 12:34:40 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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How fast they fall on the moon, jupiter, wherever... that is an OBSERVATION, a law. Why they are attracted to each other would be the theory of gravity.

You don’t know the simple difference between a scientific law and a theory.


19 posted on 08/06/2021 12:37:25 PM PDT by Kevmo (Right now there are 600 political prisoners in Washington, DC.)
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OK then—how would you have written the headline, given the topic? The article is about how the current technology is running out of room to keep doubling.

"We're Working For Them Now: How Computers' Thirst For Ever Greater Power Is Forcing Humans To Unbelievable Heights Of Engineering Development."

20 posted on 08/06/2021 12:38:24 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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