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Arizona State Senator Wendy Rogers Launches Petition to Decertify the 2020 Election
Gateway Pundit ^ | August 5, 2021 | Jordan Conradson

Posted on 08/05/2021 1:32:07 PM PDT by kellymcneill

Arizona State Senator Wendy Rogers previously called for the decertification of the 2020 election in Arizona following the groundbreaking Senate hearing last month.

Rogers has led the charge for decertification and a new election and she has been using her large social media platform constantly with powerful messages.

(Excerpt) Read more at thegatewaypundit.com ...


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To: NobleFree
No, only “a judgment obtained directly by fraud, and not merely a judgment founded on a fraudulent instrument; for, in general, the court will not go again into the merits of an action for the purpose of detecting and annulling the fraud.” -

No. Replace your word "only" with the actual first independent clause in the sentence that you left out.


41 posted on 08/06/2021 9:03:56 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: ping jockey
...the auditors are scared of what the right might do when they are publicised.

You mean like stop buying pillows and dietary supplements and sending in donations?

42 posted on 08/06/2021 9:11:59 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: FreeReign

The second clause qualifies the first. My previous post remains correct.


43 posted on 08/06/2021 9:22:13 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: FreeReign

“Every” emphasizes that judgments are not excluded, while “that is ...” goes on to specify which judgments are included.


44 posted on 08/06/2021 9:26:44 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree
“Every” emphasizes that judgments are not excluded, while “that is ...” goes on to specify which judgments are included.

In the first independent clause, "every" means "all", no exceptions. The first independent clause then goes on to reiterate that there are no exceptions by saying judgments and contracts are equal. Thus all judgments and contracts are vitiated.

The second independent clause ("that is") reiterates the first independent clause. Judgments obtained directly by fraud, and not merely a judgments founded on a fraudulent instrument are vitiated.

45 posted on 08/06/2021 10:04:14 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: JohnnyP

I haven’t listened to him in years. He always had that Chimeroky (sp) guy on. I think he is borderline Left.

What part of my post was the book title?


46 posted on 08/06/2021 10:06:00 AM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: FreeReign

“Judgments obtained directly by fraud, and not merely a judgments founded on a fraudulent instrument are vitiated.”

Two flaws with your reading:

1. It’s ass-backward - a judgment obtained directly by fraud is a MORE likely object of vitiation than a judgment founded on a fraudulent instrument.

2. It ignores the following clause, which explains why a judgment founded on a fraudulent instrument is NOT vitiated: “for, in general, the court will not go again into the merits of an action for the purpose of detecting and annulling the fraud.”


47 posted on 08/06/2021 10:28:58 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree
Nope.

In the first independent clause, "every" means "all", no exceptions. The first independent clause then goes on to reiterate that there are no exceptions by saying that judgments and contracts are equal. Thus all fraudulent judgments and contracts are can be vitiated.

The second independent clause ("that is") reiterates the first independent clause. Judgments obtained directly by fraud, and not merely a judgment founded on a fraudulent instrument are can be vitiated.

The third independent clause goes on to say that since both fraudulent judgments and fraudulent instruments can be equally vitiated, the court will not bother with the merit of the case since the instrument the case is founded on is fraudulent. The implication is that it is more time consuming and thus a waste of time to relitigate the merits of the case when you can more simply vitiate the case founded with a fraudulent instrument.

48 posted on 08/06/2021 10:44:35 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Maris Crane

https://www.amazon.com/Its-Close-They-Cant-Cheat/dp/0785287787

If It’s Not Close, They Can’t Cheat Paperback – February 5, 2008


49 posted on 08/06/2021 11:43:13 AM PDT by JohnnyP (Thinking is hard work (I stole that from Rush).)
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To: JohnnyP

Thanks for the reply, JohnnyP.

And it looks like the title is accurate!


50 posted on 08/06/2021 11:58:38 AM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: FreeReign

“The implication is that it is more time consuming and thus a waste of time to relitigate the merits of the case when you can more simply vitiate the case founded with a fraudulent instrument.”

No, it says “the court will not go again into the merits of an action for the purpose of detecting and annulling the fraud”; the court is not concerned with detecting and annulling the fraud that was committed by means of the instrument.


51 posted on 08/06/2021 11:59:49 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: FreeReign

“The implication is that it is more time consuming and thus a waste of time to relitigate the merits of the case when you can more simply vitiate the case founded with a fraudulent instrument.”

No, it says “the court will not go again into the merits of an action for the purpose of detecting and annulling the fraud”; the court is not concerned with detecting and annulling the fraud that was committed by means of the instrument.


52 posted on 08/06/2021 12:00:04 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Maris Crane

He bills himself as a center right talk host but he’s a putz. He referred to birthers as nutters. I don’t know what he thinks about the election. Can’t stand him anymore so I quit listening a year ago.


53 posted on 08/06/2021 12:22:45 PM PDT by JohnnyP (Thinking is hard work (I stole that from Rush).)
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To: FreeReign

From the preceding sentence of the Throckmorton ruling: “the doctrine is equally well settled that the court will not set aside a judgment because it was founded on a fraudulent instrument”.


54 posted on 08/06/2021 12:32:03 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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