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To: PIF
Good Grief man, do you have any idea what the Russians did? They were the largest part of the war - and would have overrun Germany without the allied ground forces or D-Day.

Without the Allies, Russia would have lost. The US was supporting them with material goods and the war on the Western Front kept Hitler from being able to devote all his efforts to wiping out the Russians.
28 posted on 08/05/2021 4:12:51 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: fr_freak

Without the Allies, Russia would have lost ...

Except, the Russian winter killed most of Germany’s crack troops - moreover there were way more Russians than Germans, Germans who where not in the business of forcing their troops into battle like the Russians. It would just have taken longer - Germany was fighting for mere territory, while the Russian were fighting for their homes, families and the Motherland.

The allied aid made the war end quicker. Hitler just did not have the manpower to “wipe out” the Russians. Plus, Russia was simply too big to hold, let alone control.

I’ll let historians argue from here - I have other things to do.


32 posted on 08/05/2021 4:40:34 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: fr_freak
The Soviet's would have undoubtedly lost without lend-lease.

They have admitted it.

It wasn't so much tanks and planes that saved them, but food, trucks (250K), fuel (The US produced 60% of the oil in 1941) and gunpowder. (40% of what the soviets used).

Still the Russian's killed 80+% of the German army and disserve credit for that.

The only coalition that could have defeated the Axis was the Soviet Union, British Empire and the USA and Hitler was dumb enough to get them all aligned and fighting against him.

35 posted on 08/05/2021 6:29:59 PM PDT by crusher2013
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