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ADOT preparing motorists for a helluva ride
The Glendale Star ^
| July 16, 2021
| Paul Maryniak
Posted on 08/02/2021 12:40:51 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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Long, informative article, and the fun has already begun!
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
We have a relative primative freeway system in Phoenix, but we do now have alternative freeways and main roads transiting from east to west and north to south.
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posted on
08/02/2021 12:46:48 PM PDT
by
chiller
(Davey Crockett said: "Be sure you're right. Then go ahead'. I'm going ahead.)
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I10 and parts of I202 are really in tough shape.
Sure glad I seldom use them.
Its going to be bad!
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posted on
08/02/2021 12:49:11 PM PDT
by
Zathras
To: chiller
We have a relatively primitive freeway system in Phoenix
What would you consider to be a modern freeway. Include only those that don't have tolls. I live in South Mountain, and besides the highways themselves, I expect both Baseline and Southern Roads to be jammed as well, but having lived in several parts of the country I have found Phoenix' highways, as presently constructed to be very usable. Eons ahead of Hartford, New Haven and Madison. Better than most of Georgia. I can never move fast enough near Chicago to know if the highways are any good. The recently completed 202 is welcome and took pressure off of I-10. The more routes around Phoenix to CA, the better.
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posted on
08/02/2021 1:01:21 PM PDT
by
Dr. Sivana
(There is no salvation in politics.)
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Because someone foolishly decided to use the “Environmentally friendly” rubberized asphalt. It DOES NOT work in the hot southwest. It gets too soft in the heat and can’t handle the load. I remember when they tried this through the desert in Ca 25 years ago and it didn’t work then. It was a huge failure...
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posted on
08/02/2021 1:01:28 PM PDT
by
Openurmind
(The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Are you an inmate of Ahwatukee as well?
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posted on
08/02/2021 1:01:47 PM PDT
by
wildcard_redneck
( COVID lockdowns are the Establishment's attack on the middle class and our Republic )
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
between the junction of the San Tan and South Mountain freeways and I-17 near Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport
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West Valley I guess we can't expect gerbilists to understand the difference between east and west.
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posted on
08/02/2021 1:04:20 PM PDT
by
Jeff Chandler
(THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
To: chiller
relative primative freeway system in PhoenixThat was true 20 years ago, but now it's quite nice.
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posted on
08/02/2021 1:05:48 PM PDT
by
Jeff Chandler
(THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
To: Zathras
I10 and parts of I202 are really in tough shape.
It sounds like you have never driven much on northern highway systems. Spend a year in Rockford, Illinois, and you will kiss the asphalt on I-10 and the 202 at high noon in July.
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posted on
08/02/2021 1:07:51 PM PDT
by
Dr. Sivana
(There is no salvation in politics.)
To: Jeff Chandler
I guess we can't expect gerbilists to understand the difference between east and west.
Glendale is west valley (I just moved from the border of Glendale). I believe the paper is addressing Glendale residents who might be going east. I don't think it has to affect their trips to the airport, though.
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posted on
08/02/2021 1:10:33 PM PDT
by
Dr. Sivana
(There is no salvation in politics.)
To: Dr. Sivana
Not to worry…the new infrastructure bill will fix everything.
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posted on
08/02/2021 1:12:25 PM PDT
by
Laslo Fripp
(The Sybil of Free Republic)
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The billboards for the “Broadway curve” have already begun. All billboards in Phoenix are assigned to the state, aggressive law firms, and cannabis dispensaries. I am hopeful these new signs will displace the “Mask Up Arizona” signs defacing the valley for the last year.
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posted on
08/02/2021 1:13:51 PM PDT
by
Dr. Sivana
(There is no salvation in politics.)
To: Openurmind
Because someone foolishly decided to use the “Environmentally friendly” rubberized asphalt. It DOES NOT work in the hot southwest.My goodness. Where to begin?
- The purpose of the disruption is to widen the road. It has nothing to do with the rubberized asphalt, which works quiet nicely in Arizona. They need to scrape it off during major construction.
. - The purpose of rubberized asphalt is to make the road quiet, which is does, and to protect the underlying concrete. It was never sold as "environmentally friendly."
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posted on
08/02/2021 1:13:58 PM PDT
by
Jeff Chandler
(THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
To: Dr. Sivana
I believe the paper is addressing Glendale residents who might be going east. Nah, they got it backwards. Twice.
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posted on
08/02/2021 1:15:20 PM PDT
by
Jeff Chandler
(THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
To: Dr. Sivana
ZathrasThe freeways in L.A. freeways were once the pride of the city. Now you have to dodge potholes.
We used to laugh at how you could tell what state you were in by the roads. They went from excellent to just fair going from California to Arizona. Now it's the other way around.
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posted on
08/02/2021 1:18:59 PM PDT
by
Jeff Chandler
(THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
To: wildcard_redneck
Are you an inmate of Ahwatukee as well?The freeway traffic near Ahwatukee can be a pain, but at least your sun sets earlier.
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posted on
08/02/2021 1:21:25 PM PDT
by
Jeff Chandler
(THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
To: Jeff Chandler
It was first done in Ca and sold as Environmentally friendly. I was there when they did. Had to be all replaced within two years because the weight of trucks in those two summers squished it out. Ended up with two deep ruts like a dirt road in each lane. Maybe they improved the formula since, but as a subcontractor I made good money on both those pave jobs. So I witnessed the reality of it. They have not tried to use rubberized asphalt through there since.
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posted on
08/02/2021 1:36:28 PM PDT
by
Openurmind
(The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
To: Dr. Sivana
Phoenix has one of the best freeway systems in the country. I remember when there was only the partial ten and The Black Canyon. People coming east had to drive in on Buckeye Road. Things changed about thirty years ago, and it eliminated a lot of in town road rage.
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posted on
08/02/2021 1:37:44 PM PDT
by
Luke21
To: Openurmind
We’ve had rubberized asphalt overlaying the concrete on Arizona freeways for decades. Smooth and quiet, Baby!
I take back the part about it not being hyped as environmentally friendly. The rubber is made from recycled tires. I sure they must have pushed that angle.
Was the asphalt in Cali a top course over concrete, or was it just asphalt?
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posted on
08/02/2021 1:47:21 PM PDT
by
Jeff Chandler
(THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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