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Did Karl Marx Really Know What He Was Talking About?
American Thinker ^ | 28 Jul, 2021 | Ivan Kramer

Posted on 07/28/2021 3:57:31 AM PDT by MtnClimber

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1 posted on 07/28/2021 3:57:31 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber

Marx may have known, but he wanted to destroy it.


2 posted on 07/28/2021 3:57:42 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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Marx was right in that free trade was destructive and would lead to socialism then communism.


3 posted on 07/28/2021 4:04:21 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: MtnClimber

From a Bulgarian writer:

Marxist Explanations of the Rise of Contemporary Oligarchy

“Abstract:
The ideas of Karl Marx experience a renaissance in the contemporary world of neoliberal global capitalism. The thesis of the state as a “weapon of class dominance” is especially current in the process of oligarchization of politics under the mask of liberal democracy. We try to explain the rise of the contemporary oligarchy with the methodology of Marxism (neomarxism). The content is structured around three statements: a) The oligarchs are treated as a class; b) Oligarchy is legitimized with ideology; c) Current capital accumulation has reached unprecedented concentration in the hands of the few. The conclusion draws paths for anti-oligarchic resistance.”

Doc not online, is downloadable at https://ideas.repec.org/a/nwe/natrud/y2018i5p395-411.html


4 posted on 07/28/2021 4:09:23 AM PDT by polymuser (BLA socialist is a communist without the power to take everything from their citizens...yet.p)
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To: MtnClimber

Marx was a loser.
And his followers are losers.
The only people who made a living from Marxism were professors and politicians who advocated Marxism?
Do as I say not as I do.
Name a great Marxist inventor.
Name a contribution to soviety by a Marxist.


5 posted on 07/28/2021 4:11:11 AM PDT by Leep (Save America. Lock down Joe Biden!)
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He had a nice beard.


6 posted on 07/28/2021 4:12:25 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

It likely litterally smelled as did Marx.


7 posted on 07/28/2021 4:18:05 AM PDT by Leep (Save America. Lock down Joe Biden!)
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To: MtnClimber

The manufacturing in Marx time was still mostly manu (manual) job.
Capitalists build facilities, set up factories, bought parts and hired workers. Then sold the products and got paid. It could look like the workers did all the job.
Marx totally discarded the the value of invention, management, organization, innovation and commerce.
The inventors, designers, managers, sales and marketing were just parasites, totally useless for generating any value. They lived by exploiting the sweat of the poor, exploited workers.
He did not missed these people, he actually argued that they are just useless exploiting parasites, skimming the real workers.
The USA now in Marxist view is actually some kind of global capitalist, exploiting poor workers in China. It must be brought down!


8 posted on 07/28/2021 4:52:00 AM PDT by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHGreco RomNQkryIIs)
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"All three of these brilliant entrepreneurs invested money to make more money"

“If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.”

9 posted on 07/28/2021 5:07:15 AM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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Marx was diseased in mind and body. See Marx's erupting skin may have influenced writings His screeds were incoherent. More like raving.
10 posted on 07/28/2021 5:08:10 AM PDT by TimSkalaBim
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To: MtnClimber

Joe McCarthy did.


11 posted on 07/28/2021 5:09:06 AM PDT by weezel
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To: central_va
Marx was right in that free trade was destructive and would lead to socialism then communism.

You are so wrong, free trade has no relationship to the spread of communism.

What we have today is not free trade, we have remnants of our convoluted trade policies from right after WW II.

Uncle sugar gave away US tax payer dollars many via trade policies, trying to rebuild the world and buy friends around the globe.

Today's free trade is comparable to our payment to the UN, we pay the lions share, and get pissed on by the entire world

12 posted on 07/28/2021 5:10:39 AM PDT by USS Alaska (NUKE ALL MOOSELIMB TERRORISTS, NOW.)
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To: Leep
"Marx was a loser. And his followers are losers. The only people who made a living from Marxism were professors and politicians who advocated Marxism? Do as I say not as I do. Name a great Marxist inventor. Name a contribution to soviety by a Marxist."

Yet the followers of his ideology are on the verge of transforming America into a marxist society. A sad situation, but not bad for a bunch of losers 😞

13 posted on 07/28/2021 5:12:33 AM PDT by buckalfa (I have forgotten more than I ever knew.)
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To: MtnClimber

Bill Gates “created jobs” and lied to Congress about the availability of degreed professionals so he could import cheap labor.


14 posted on 07/28/2021 5:14:58 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Lean on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity.)
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To: AZJeep

In Marx view, the purchasers and the sale people were just in business of cheating the suppliers and the customers. The costs of facilities, parts, management, engineering etc, were just some constant and variable costs to be passed to customers and the !Only! real value created was done by the workers.
It was always wrong to thing that way, but in Marx time, the workers were actually bigger part of the business than they are now, so it could look little more plausible then.


15 posted on 07/28/2021 5:25:54 AM PDT by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHGreco RomNQkryIIs)
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To: USS Alaska

We are the free trade suckers in a mercantile world.


16 posted on 07/28/2021 5:26:36 AM PDT by steve8714 (Evidently the Oxford comma is racist, sexist, or homophobic. You decide which.)
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Do Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos know what they are talking about? They have become super rich in the American system, but are so stupid that they want to turn this country marxist. (They, of course, would get to keep their riches).


17 posted on 07/28/2021 5:28:18 AM PDT by I want the USA back (To find out who really rules you, find out who you're not allowed to criticize. Voltaire. )
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Marx may have known, but he wanted to destroy it.

Marx was a lazy, angry, self-centered person who hated capitalism in large measure because he resented his father - who kept pushing him to finish his education and have a trade or profession. Hundreds of millions have died, and many millions have suffered because of his emotional immaturity, anger/resentment, and narcissism. Great legacy.

18 posted on 07/28/2021 5:34:55 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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He developed a system of economics and morality that holds envy to be a noble virtue. But the goal of envy is to diminish the object of that envy. It’s unwholesome and destructive.


19 posted on 07/28/2021 5:40:37 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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To: buckalfa

There is something in some people..that the only thing that drives them is a desire to prove right is wrong and wrong is right.
And the only way the majority will tolerate this insane premise is if you force them to accept it.
It’s a need to control or inflict suffering or feel powerful..
Capitalism along with charity has done more to advance civilization.. including technical and medical advances..then Marxist philosophy
.which has never worked and never will work.
But they can’t resist it..because it allows the do nothing’s to fool themselves,or everyone else, in to thinking they deserve a piece of your efforts.


20 posted on 07/28/2021 5:42:10 AM PDT by Leep (Save America. Lock down Joe Biden!)
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