Posted on 07/22/2021 3:36:31 PM PDT by Tipllub
The people of LA don’t seem to be concerned. Watch game three of the Giant/Dodger game tonight. Stands are packed and try to find someone wearing a mask.
For the liberals that have been vaccinated, Biden told them they're safe. For the rest, they dgaf about Covid...
So that claim of 90% to 98% effectiveness was obviously BS. Wondering what other claims about the vaccines and virus are similarly BS...
It was never claimed at 98% the data showed 94 to 96% for the original alpha strain much less for the delta strain. This is the New England medical journal a well respected peer reviewed journal all the data and numbers you seek are here.
This is brand new data published yesterday after review and approval.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2108891
“Effectiveness after one dose of vaccine (BNT162b2 or ChAdOx1 nCoV-19) was notably lower among persons with the delta variant (30.7%; 95% confidence interval [CI], 25.2 to 35.7) than among those with the alpha variant (48.7%; 95% CI, 45.5 to 51.7); the results were similar for both vaccines. With the BNT162b2 vaccine, the effectiveness of two doses was 93.7% (95% CI, 91.6 to 95.3) among persons with the alpha variant and 88.0% (95% CI, 85.3 to 90.1) among those with the delta variant. With the ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 vaccine, the effectiveness of two doses was 74.5% (95% CI, 68.4 to 79.4) among persons with the alpha variant and 67.0% (95% CI, 61.3 to 71.8) among those with the delta variant.”
This is real science not internet balderdash
After all isn't that what "the science" would say?
This is the New England medical journal which used to be a well respected peer reviewed journal, but is just another politicized media source now.
There, I fixed it for you.
“I want to know if infected vaxxed people are contagious? Are they shedding a virus that has escaped the immunity offered by the vaccine?”
Of course, that is a possibility if they are symptomatic.
Exactly what I've been thinking. The variant originated in India at a time when they were encountering a huge outbreak. Travel to/from India should have been cut off immediately. No surprise it made its way next to their sister country of England. And then Biden opens up the flood gates with Mexico and Central America.
6 people died in l.a.county today per worldometer as Covid cases. No info as to vaccination status or concommittant serious diseases. Sounds like common cold numbers. No?
People who have been vaccinated can get infected.They just don’t get as ill.If they dont lockdown...they can spread it to non vaccinated unless the unvaccinated dont open up as much. Avoid the vaccinated...they could be silent carriers. As the vaccinated and unvaccinated open up...they will start getting influenza and other common cold viruses.
Last July, before july 4 holiday we were heading way downward(covid cases and deaths)...without vaccines.
There is no way to test for the Delta variant.
There is not a separate PCR test for 1 type of variant.
This is FAKE NEWS.
Keep them scared B.S.
Yes, but nothing makes sense with these people.
I was watching Fox11 news today and they had a interview with one of the people in the Ventura gov’t who would like to have masks worn in Ventura county which is next door to LA county where it is mandated. The mask mandate had been lifted just like LA but LA reimposed it after about 3 weeks of freedom to crush dissent and help gov Newsom steal the recall election.
3 reporters / news reporters were basically berating the guy to mandate masks. You know he wanted to but the gov’t up there is saying no for now. The reporters were shills for the democrat party lockdown.
They themselves were not wearing masks!!
Since last spring of 2020 the beaches have been open to MILLIONS of people up and down the state with few exceptions. This is all a sick twisted plot by the democrats. Destroying almost 40% of small business’s with millions losing their savings and jobs with no end in sight!
Age-dependent immune response to the Biontech/Pfizer BNT162b2 COVID-19 vaccination
” Although the increment of antibody levels after the second immunization was higher in elderly participants, the absolute mean titer of this group remained lower than the <60 group. After the second vaccination, 31.3 % of the elderly had no detectable neutralizing antibodies in contrast to the younger group, in which only 2.2% had no detectable neutralizing antibodies.
Conclusion: Our data showed differences between the antibody responses raised after the first and second BNT162b2 vaccination, in particular lower frequencies of neutralizing antibodies in the elderly group. This suggests that this population needs to be closely monitored and may require earlier revaccination or/and an increased vaccine dose...”
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33906236/
also:
“While 98.1% of the health care workers produced antibodies after vaccination, only 37.2% of the vaccinated solid organ transplant patients were positive for antibodies; 54.7% of the blood cancer patients; 82.4% of those with solid tumor cancer and 83.8% of patients with autoimmune disorders. In contrast, 94.6% of patients with HIV made antibodies.
Among patients with solid organ transplants, lung transplant patients had a particularly poor response to vaccination, with only 22.2% producing antibodies. Liver transplant patients fared best, with 60.6% of study participants producing antibodies after vaccination. Patients who received their transplant less than a year ago were less likely to respond to vaccination than those transplanted earlier.
In addition, cancer patients receiving radiation therapy and patients taking certain medications—such as antimetabolites for transplant and anti-CD20 monoclonal antibodies for autoimmune disorders—were more likely not to produce antibodies after COVID-19 vaccination. ...
https://www.upmc.com/media/news/063021-haidar-covics-interim-medrxiv
Where in the USA are the cases?
How many cases?
How many deaths from variant? NOT the percentage...the NUMBER?
The media used to scream the NUMBERS. Now, silence.
I want NUMBERS AND FATALITIES.
Why only symptomatic?
It was in the Wall Street Journal a couple of days ago. I was glad they had done their own research instead of just breathing back numbers from the CDC. Just got home from a long day. When I find the clipping I’ll post it again.
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