They have been doing this to us a lot longer than we realize.
A while back there was a link to an article on one of our Q threads stating that the Republicans were the ones who started this mess. In 2000 the Democrats tried low-tech vote fraud – ballot box stuffing – in Florida, and the Republicans had to grab the election back, which they did. In 2002 the Republicans developed their own high-tech vote fraud.
On Election Night 2002 the VNS satellite uplinks failed all at once, and votes had to be tabulated by hand. I suggested the NSA probably pulled this off. You may remember that James Carville had predicted a significant Democrat pickup that night, and when the Republicans made gains instead, he put a trash can over his head to our general merriment. But Carville may have been right. The Republicans may have stolen a few seats that cycle.
On Election Night 2004 it all boiled down to Ohio. There were rumors that the Bush campaign had the FBI document the usual Democrat ballot box stuffing in certain cities. According to these rumors, Karl Rove told Mary Beth Cahill that if Kerry contested Ohio in civil court, the Bush campaign was prepared to contest several states in criminal court with the arrest of Democrat operatives in those cities.
There were also rumors that the Bush campaign tampered with the electronic voting machines at the server level in four states: Texas, California, Florida and Ohio. We at FR laughed those claims to scorn, but maybe we shouldn’t have.
The article on the earlier Q thread stated that after 2004 the Democrats got their own high-tech vote fraud machine in gear. This means that since 2002, every election at every level is suspect to some degree.
It stands to reason that at some point the Democrat establishment and the Republican establishment worked out an arrangement to fix elections. This permitted the two political establishments to meld their interests with the Deep State. After all, the Republicans do their best fund raising when they are in the minority, which permits them to milk their Chamber of Commerce buddies.
The arrival of Trump threatened this arrangement. He was the bacillus that entered the body politic, and both Democrat and Republican antibodies rushed to the site of the infection to stamp it out.
My own personal suspicion is that neither Bush nor Obama won a second term, that Trump’s 2016 victory was far greater in magnitude, and that his 2020 victory was both a personal landslide and a wave election that benefitted all Republicans.
Thanks to organized and coordinated vote fraud, today we have:
Until our elections are cleaned up, there is no purpose to elections because their results cannot be trusted.
Q's statement was that the military was the only way. Maybe he was right.
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Re: 2002, I wonder if the Republicans cheated, or just stopped the democrat’s cheating machine that particular election.
2000 was one that interested me (I was just getting into politics and became an FR member in that time frame) - I really think that the democrats tried to steal the election, and if not for a good solid court decision, AlGore would have been able to steal Florida by re-re-re-counting only 4 very democrat (read crooked) counties in the state while ignoring the rest. Old technology, punching holes in IBM cards to vote, but it wasn’t rocket science.
I’m not sure about 2004 - John Effin Kerry (who’s been to Vietnam) wasn’t all that popular, and Bush did benefit politically in his response to 9/11. On the other hand, knowing what I know now, cheating by both parties is very likely. I like to think that only democrats do it, but looking around DC, there seem to be a LOT of republicans that want to sweep the fraud allegations under the rug.
I want it ALL exposed, regardless of who did/does it! We can re-use rope and lamp posts as needed, and the firing squad will have no problem getting volunteers if this massive fraud is uncovered and made public.
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Good research into the history of elections shenanigans!
Publius wrote:
“Here is the money quote from Wendy Rogers.
They have been doing this to us a lot longer than we realize.
A while back there was a link to an article on one of our Q threads stating that the Republicans were the ones who started this mess. In 2000 the Democrats tried low-tech vote fraud – ballot box stuffing – in Florida, and the Republicans had to grab the election back, which they did. In 2002 the Republicans developed their own high-tech vote fraud.
On Election Night 2002 the VNS satellite uplinks failed all at once, and votes had to be tabulated by hand. I suggested the NSA probably pulled this off. You may remember that James Carville had predicted a significant Democrat pickup that night, and when the Republicans made gains instead, he put a trash can over his head to our general merriment. But Carville may have been right. The Republicans may have stolen a few seats that cycle.
On Election Night 2004 it all boiled down to Ohio. There were rumors that the Bush campaign had the FBI document the usual Democrat ballot box stuffing in certain cities. According to these rumors, Karl Rove told Mary Beth Cahill that if Kerry contested Ohio in civil court, the Bush campaign was prepared to contest several states in criminal court with the arrest of Democrat operatives in those cities.
There were also rumors that the Bush campaign tampered with the electronic voting machines at the server level in four states: Texas, California, Florida and Ohio. We at FR laughed those claims to scorn, but maybe we shouldn’t have.
The article on the earlier Q thread stated that after 2004 the Democrats got their own high-tech vote fraud machine in gear. This means that since 2002, every election at every level is suspect to some degree.
It stands to reason that at some point the Democrat establishment and the Republican establishment worked out an arrangement to fix elections. This permitted the two political establishments to meld their interests with the Deep State. After all, the Republicans do their best fund raising when they are in the minority, which permits them to milk their Chamber of Commerce buddies.
The arrival of Trump threatened this arrangement. He was the bacillus that entered the body politic, and both Democrat and Republican antibodies rushed to the site of the infection to stamp it out.
My own personal suspicion is that neither Bush nor Obama won a second term, that Trump’s 2016 victory was far greater in magnitude, and that his 2020 victory was both a personal landslide and a wave election that benefitted all Republicans.
Thanks to organized and coordinated vote fraud, today we have:
An illegitimate president and vice president;
An illegitimate Congress in both Houses;
Illegitimate governors and state legislatures;
Illegitimate county and city governments;
Illegitimate school boards;
Illegitimate decisions in referenda and initiatives.
Until our elections are cleaned up, there is no purpose to elections because their results cannot be trusted.
Q’s statement was that the military was the only way. Maybe he was right.”
I wonder if the long term fraud history will be in this 2020 report? I bet in some fashion it will simply prove itself! If Dominion fraud technique existed in 2020, it existed from the first use of electronic voting machines everywhere.
The fraud was the purpose of electronic voting from its conception.
I agree with you. MIL. I just heretofore believed MIL would follow the fail of the US SC to allocate justice for a stolen election.
Thanks.