Well, the scorn & derision is robust on both sides — the arrogance, however, is certainly unbalanced.
And these daily info blurbs exclude critical variables such as climate and seasonal trends.
I know this is a pro-vax thread — it’s not an objective data thread.
So I agree that we need to look at everything in due course. What I am seeing right now in several major hospitals in a large metro is a lot more CoVID hospitalization. It is trending toward the younger to middle ageish and the unvaccinated. I would say that the actual number of hospitalized vaccinated are about 1 - 2 % of what we are seeing with the overwhelming majority being unvaccinated.
In my judgment, if vaccinated are getting the disease, and there seems to be an increase in breakthrough, it is NOT progressing to severe disease. This is what was expected.
“I know this is a pro-vax thread — it’s not an objective data thread.”
It is a daily posting of the data (Vaccinations, cases, hospitalizations and deaths) from the authoritative source (CDC).
Anti-vaccine people seem to hate that, and personally attack me daily for posting objective data.
Seasonality is frequently mentioned here.
That natural immunity is great was first mentioned here.
We try to be objective in general, evidence has been very favorable about the vaccines.
Last week I visited a ‘violent anti vax’ thread about the vax eating peoples’ brains. Even worse than their usual fearporn mis-representing VAERS reports.
Anyway, I’ll admit no one’s perfect or can be expected to be. It’ll be years before this is all clearly understood.