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To: ransomnote

One of the most amazing parts of this whole mess, is that we rolled out a completely experimental injection to the masses, and the only adverse event recording system we have is passive. If we are determined to roll out an experimental so widely, our adverse event system should be active not passive. We should be watching every vaccinated person like a hawk. If they get so much as a runny nose, it should be reported and we should be looking diligently into it.

A passive system during the biggest trial in human history? Absolutely unacceptable in every way shape or form.


6 posted on 07/13/2021 8:42:40 PM PDT by walkingdead (We are sacrificing American youth's future on the altar of our own fear. And it is a travesty.)
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To: walkingdead
One of the most amazing parts of this whole mess, is that we rolled out a completely experimental injection to the masses, and the only adverse event recording system we have is passive. 

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It's actually worse than that. Instead of fixing this failed passive system which research showed collected less than 1% of adverse events actually experienced, the CDC rolled out a SECOND PASSIVE system called V-Safe.

The CDC created V-Safe to corral adverse events before they reached the public. V-Safe is a phone app that collects adverse events reports which are kept privately available only to CDC. This is why there aren't more adverse events in VAERS.

V-Safe is passive and several million people signed up for it, but in reality only about 7% of those receiving vaccines enrolled in V-safe, so while that phone app keeps the truth from showing up in VAERS, it's still a failed, second passive system that few people use. They don't want VAERS to work so they don't fix it. They don't want people to report to VAERS so they create a phone app to divert information into a private database.

FReeper Cathi provided the following info about V-safe :

Someone dug into it and this info is interesting.

She found that “Everyone who gets vaccinated will be encouraged to register for the V-SAFE tool.”. Fun fact, she read the pamphlet and registered. I was told nothing and of course I read nothing so didn’t register. So I wondered what the conversion rate was.

Alexandros Marinos

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She found the following: “More than 90 million Americans have received at least one shot, yet the CDC’s v-safe monitoring program has only 6 million participants”. That’s a 6.6% conversion rate. At least does everything reported get to VAERS?

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“Anyone who reports a clinically important event — missing work, being unable to do normal daily activities or receiving medical care — will get a follow-up phone call and a report may be filed in the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS)”

Alexandros Marinos

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So basically, it relies on self-reporting, and then being able to answer a call, and then (something) “may” be filed as a report to VAERS. What percentage of events are we supposing is going in to VAERS here? My intent is not to create fears of vaccines, but this is madness.

Alexandros Marinos

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Jul 7

If, as a startup founder, I cared about collecting the data in my pipeline, and my analytics team showed up with this system as representative, they would no longer be my analytics team. This is not what one does when they truly want to gather all data.


7 posted on 07/13/2021 8:48:51 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: walkingdead

Absolutely agree. And the workers we need to do this are collecting their government checks and going home to access facebook or twitter, or their favorite msm fake news outlet...have wine and mary jane..and watch netflix, or marvel, or disney poopaganda.


11 posted on 07/13/2021 10:26:55 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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