[Steve_Seattle]

I watched the full video, and he has two main points, which he says are based on several recent studies: (1) we have already reached herd immunity; and (2) that the vaccines - especially in multiple doses - seem to have an adverse effect on cell structure that is likely to result in serious clotting effects.

We have already seen reports of the latter, and he suggests it is going to get much worse. He thus believes that the dangers of the vaccines outweigh the benefits.

[Jane Long]

Thanks for the recap.

[mdmathis6]

The detractors seem to assume that there is no “off switch” for the protein spike production...that body’s cells will will be programmed to continue to make spike proteins ad infinitum so that it chokes itself on them causing massive autoimmune attacks and alzheimers like syndromes. Mrna vaccines don’t hijack the main sequence nucleolar DNA like that. By the way I’ve seen these same types of blood reactions and autoimmune effects in patients who had covid but had never gotten vaxed. The Covid virus itself did that in these patients.

I think an antibody test should be done first before anybody takes these MRNA shots because I believe many have already had a silent Covid attack and when they get the shots their immune systems can go haywire as the vaccine proceeds to try to do what the person has already developed immune responses for. Health care workers like me who had no antibodies but will work with covid 19 patients are at higher risk and probably will need some type of protection...but their uses should be limited and only after antibody testing.

I think the researchers will find that those who had severe reactions to the vaccine were those who had already had immunity or recent exposures to the COVID bug.

I think the same thing happened with the guardasil anti herpes vaccines. The girls who got bad reactions were those who may have already had been exposed to one of the types the vaccine works against and their bodies had an autoimmune anaphylactic fit over producing an immunity for something it already had developed anti bodies for...almost like some “rabbit” test(the old way of telling when a patient was pregnant...the rabbit had antibodies against certain pregnancy hormones...when exposed to serum from a possibly pregnant female the rabbit would die...if the rabbit lived, the female human was not pregnant). Guess what if you were a female with antibodies against a certain strain of herpes..and you got guardisil, then chances are you might get really sick...you might even die...but at least we’ll all know that you had herpes of a type that could have led to cancer.

I think the covid vaxes can have the same effects on those already immune but don’t know that they are immune.