[DiogenesLamp]

This is why we talk past each other. All of this is provably caused by the progressives some four decades after the timeframe you claim.

Who was Margaret Sanger?

There’s a huge four decade gap you can’t account for.

Who was Roger Baldwin?

You’re essentially a friend to the progressives.

Mother Jones?

[ProgressingAmerica]

I'm most interested in this. Who was Robert Bork? You and I could go around for another 20 back and forth posts, but I think this can cut the noise down. Robert Bork wrote in one of his books The Tempting of America (Pages 181 to 183) that:

(It is not) easy to imagine the northern states, victorious in a Civil War that lead to the fourteenth amendment, should have decided to turn over to the federal courts not only the protection of the rights of freed slaves but an unlimited power to frustrate the will of the Northern states themselves. The only significant exercise of judicial review in the past century had been Dred Scott, a decision hated in the North and one hardly likely to encourage the notion that courts should be given carte blanche to set aside legislative acts. ... Had any such radical departure from the American method of governance been intended, had courts been intended to supplant legislatures, there would be more than a shred of evidence to that effect. That proposal would have provoked an enormous debate and public discussion.

Also:

We know there is no evidence that the ratifiers imagined they were handing ultimate governance to the courts. We know that a constitutional revolution of that magnitude would have provoked widespread and heated (to put it mildly) discussion but there is no record of any such discussion.

You see, Robert Bork distrusted the progressives. The progressives said "here is the new truth about the 14th amendment", and Bork simply went and got the debate notes from when they created the 14th, and of course there's no evidence of any of the progressives claims. (I'm sure he probably reviewed some news reports of the era as well.)

What a surprise. Progressives are liars. That's shocking, SHOCKING news there.

"Who was Margaret Sanger?"

She was a person who I cannot trust. Same for Baldwin and Jones and Woodrow Wilson and Herbert Croly and Theodore Roosevelt and Walter Lippmann and on and on.

When these poisonous people make a claim, I know that the opposite of what they claim is the truth.

So what do they claim about the 14th? I know for a fact that the opposite is the truth.

Why do you believe their claims? Why do you believe their claims without evidence? I'll end this with a simple question for you. Have you ever downloaded the debate notes from the framing of the 14th amendment and read the discussions that took place? It's either yes or no.