Posted on 06/27/2021 8:33:55 AM PDT by TheWriterTX
Boikers and elebators are always cause trouble in buildings like this. They should be outlawed.
Is your boiker elebated or are you just happy to see me?
That will be one for the courts to decide. I do not know the internals of how they were addressing it, just the steps typically taken to address major work.
Sorry for the spelling errors.
It should have read boilers and elevators. Old eyes...
“I read somewhere that the special assessment to fix the problems could have been as much as 100 thousand per unit. Dunno if true.”
First thought if I lived there, would be to sell my unit. The second thought is that if I didn’t disclose the report to the new owner (assuming that I knew of it), there goes my retirement, and maybe my freedom.
In other words, once the condition is known to you, it’s too late. Similar to having a foundation going south in your house - you’re stuck with it.
pretty much every city employee in P&Z, etc., is home and NOT working. You can barely get plans approved; no one answers the phone, no one is in, emails don’t get returned.
this has turned into a lazy government employee disney world
“Probably concrete pilings hammered in. Betcha when all is said and done and they pull these out the will see saltwater eroded concrete and re-bar. Salt water raises hell with concrete “
True, but in this case, it was the pool that was leaking into the parking below, because its seal wasn’t maintained.
I didn’t see mention of the possibility the building was constructed improperly from the get go and was a disaster waiting to happen.
There may be others involved than just the condo managers and owners.
You don’t often read of a large building in the United States just falling down.
Yes.
I wonder if boiker and elebator are destined to achieve the FR status of beeper / stuned / moose / cheese / sister / pancake bunny.
Does anybody know if there were pilings or caisons in the foundation?
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Many of the questions coming up here were discussed yesterday....
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3971196/posts
If you go to post 53, you can see that the complete set of architectural drawings are posted. I’m sure there are links there to the reports as well....
separate question; what if the manager is an employee of the association (not a 3rd party entity) and lives on site. Any difference or vulnerability in that scenario?
It was the pool deck aka entire patio around the pool. It was not properly sloped and the water pooled up causing seepage through the slab and on the ocean that included salt.
Concrete and rebar dont like salt
“Does anybody know if there were pilings or caisons in the foundation? Or it could have been a failure at the top.”
there’s an excellent video showing the collapse: it collapsed starting from the bottom ...
With major structural damage like this was $100,000 per unit does not seem unreasonable!! Once the building is up I would imagine it becomes far more difficult to repair this kind of damage to make the building stable!!!
There was a condo unit in San Francisco that had this problem on a MAJOR scale owners just moved out and sued the developer who of course filed bankruptcy!! I think the building is still there no one living in it and it is only 10 years old!! Looks like all who purchased their condos are just SCREWED however during the building process I am wondering IF the building inspectors can be responsible for signing off!!
There was no change of ownership, thus no complete inspection, only routine city inspections and routine procedures to get the original owners (all the Tenants) to pay for building maintenance.
It was a missed opportunity, by circumstance, to repair critical structural issues.
you totally forgot hugh and series
And Android helped me out by correcting beeber to beeper
Still fails to answer the most pressing question...
At least 20% of the Florida Atlantic coast has condos and hotels built on it.
There are literally thousands of buildings - many of them have been there for fifty years, or even longer.
None of them have suddenly collapsed and killed hundreds of people.
Until proven otherwise, I am still going with a terrorist attack on a heavily Jewish neighborhood.
Until they clear away enough rubble to inspect the columns on the lowest parking level, this catastrophe is still an unsolved mystery.
The swimming pool collapsed the parking garage, the inspector said the pool was in bad shape and installed wrong and would cost a lot to repair it correctly.
Watch this video which shows the building crumbling before it fell.
“ Mike, a political strategist, was on a business trip to Washington when Cassie called him at 1:30 in the morning, frantic that the building had shook. She was on the phone with him when she looked out the window and saw a sinkhole where the swimming pool had been. Then the line went dead.”
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