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To: MtnClimber

I am willing to try Green energy if AOC, Schumer, Kerry and Gore pay for the backup generating stations that can take over 100% capacity on a hot switchover, if the green energy fails or cannot meet demand.


2 posted on 06/22/2021 4:30:42 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

I’ve always looked at it this way. Any new power source will cost so much to build. You have to have reliable backup sources for the “green energy” projects. There may be times when power production will have to come only directly from conventional power plants; if there is no wind & no sunshine. Since you would have to rely directly on conventional sources, why not build that only, thereby saving what what would be spent on solar & wind which can only be intermittent at the best. Seems to me that total expenditure for power sources would be less if only spent on the reliable conventional plants. It has served well with few problems in the past. States that insist on utilizing “green energy” to depend on are going to be stuck with high priced energy from nearby states(if it is even available) when their wind & solar both fail.


5 posted on 06/22/2021 4:48:34 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: MtnClimber

I think the whole idea of shifting to “green energy” is to make the electrical supply uncertain and subject to the whims of weather and bureaucratic decisions. By making electricity scarce and unreliable, this would force the substitution of human effort to perform the simple tasks of pumping water, carrying or towing burdens, or lighting fires fueled by wood or other combustible organic material. Therefore, this would bring about “full employment”, as in “if you don’t work, you don’t eat.”

Human beings are basically a rather lazy lot, which drives a great deal of innovation for “labor-saving” devices. The introduction of electricity provided what was at the time a more reliable, and dare I say, a more efficient means of transforming human activity into useful work. In fact, our dependence on electricity as a source of energy utilization has overtaken our lives to the extent we could literally not survive without it, at least not in the numbers we now exist.

Perhaps that is the objective of the “green energy” advocates, the decimation and even massive die-back of the humanity that exists, to “sustainable” levels. Less impact on the resources of the planet, that is for sure.

This also explains the fascination with the death culture, the anti-reproduction attitudes of coming generations, with access to abortion, “transgenderism” (which succeeds only in making the individuals of either gender effectively neuters), and the passion for elevating LBGT to a virtue over “toxic masculinity” or “smother love”.

This all comes of a piece of the whole “command-and-control” mentality that has overtaken our world (once again). You see, the very idea of individual liberty and personal freedom are only very recent innovations of the human spirit, as for ages the lives of most humanity were governed by some form of tyrannical control and for the purpose of keeping a privileged class in control of all aspects of life. This spirit of innovation is the genie that has to be put back in the bottle, at all costs, and denial of cheap and reliable energy is the way in which it is to be accomplished.

Beware of the person who says, “We are doing this for your own good.” For no real benefit shall ever be provided to the victim of this lie.


9 posted on 06/22/2021 5:03:03 AM PDT by alloysteel ( Cows don't give milk. You have to work for it.)
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To: MtnClimber

What’s the “environmental” cost of building double the infrastructure to back up “intermittent” sources? We all know the answer.


27 posted on 06/22/2021 6:51:09 AM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged )
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