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To: 2aProtectsTheRest; AndyTheBear
They have an agenda of fear to push.

If that is not the pot calling the kettle black! I post maybe a 20th as much as you do on this subject! Covid is your obsession.

I have very little fear of Covid... most people do not even have symptoms from it. And the survival rate among those who are not elderly or feeble is close to 100%. And Effective treatments are available, and would saved countless lives worldwide if not for the "vaccination" fixation.

And I do not have fear of typical vaccinations. I was a Hazmat team leader for years and have had ten times as many as most people. The problem is that I am knowledgeable enough to know without a doubt that these experimental “vaccinations” were not properly vetted.

VAERS typically gets around 160 reports of death related to vaccinations. This year so far they have received over 5000 reports of deaths related to vaccinations. If it were not for the emergency use authorization... these would have been dropped like a hot potato months ago. Participation rates in VAERS are typically around 10% meaning that it is very likely that times the number of people have actually died from these experimental “vaccines”.

82 posted on 06/21/2021 12:28:22 PM PDT by fireman15
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To: fireman15
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It is very likely that ten times the number of people have actually died from these experimental “vaccines”.

83 posted on 06/21/2021 12:31:29 PM PDT by fireman15
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To: fireman15; AndyTheBear

No, you’re not pushing fear of COVID, you’re pushing fear of the vaccines.

The vaccines available in the United States for COVID-19 went through full Phase 1, Phase 2, and Phase 3 clinical trials with over 100,000 trial participants. The clinical trials began over 15 months ago. Trial participants continue to be monitored. There are a few known, rare, significant issues with them including risk of anaphylaxis with Pfizer (1 in 90,000) and Moderna (1 in 400,000), risk of blood clots in women of childbearing age with J&J, and risk of myocarditis among younger males (typically under 30) with Pfizer and Moderna. Those reactions are rare, mostly predictable (particularly for the anaphylactic reactions - mostly happening in those with a history of severe allergies), and usually a quick and easy fix (epinephrine with anaphylaxis and simple rest with myocarditis).

VAERS is something suddenly discovered by people pushing fear about the vaccines and it’s being used by them to push that fear despite the warnings all over the VAERS website and all over HHS and NIH websites specifically stating that the data is being misused. Reports in VAERS are unverified, can be submitted by anyone, and do not necessarily have any causal link to any vaccine.

You mentioned 5,000 reports of death in VAERS. You claim they’re “related to vaccinations”. The VAERS website itself specifically states that:

* It is generally not possible to find out from VAERS data if a vaccine caused the adverse event
* Numbers of reports may increase in response to media attention and increased public awareness
* VAERS data cannot be used to determine rates of adverse events
* The report of an adverse event to VAERS is not documentation that a vaccine caused the event.

(https://vaers.hhs.gov/faq.html)
(https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/dataguide.html)

Yet here you and other fear-pushers are, making wild claims about the VAERS data. Not only will you claim (in direct contradiction to what the VAERS website, HHS, NIH, and everyone else who operates VAERS says) that every report in VAERS is both valid and causally linked to a vaccine, you will then go on to make wild, unsubstantiated claims that VAERS is only a fraction of the actual deaths. You then make up whatever figures you like. The deaths are 10 times what’s in VAERS! 100 times! 1,000 times! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR!

You’re dishonest about the data in VAERS. You’re dishonest about the data not in VAERS. And you use all this dishonesty to push an agenda of fear. This is no better than what the Democrats did with COVID-19. You’re using the same tactics to push the same fear, trying to drive peoples’ behaviors.

It is shameful.


84 posted on 06/21/2021 12:42:25 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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