Posted on 06/10/2021 8:47:49 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica
Preferred title: Should the British Government be dissolved because Queen Elizabeth authorized Sir John Hawkins to import Africans into the West Indies? (title too long)Frederick Douglass is amazing.
If you consider yourself a constitutionalist and you aren't reading Douglass you are missing out on true greatness. In 1860, Frederick Douglass tore fellow abolitionists to shreds over the slave trade saying: (source)
Mr. Thompson is just 52 years too late in dissolving the Union on account of this clause. He might as well dissolve the British Government, because Queen Elizabeth granted to Sir John Hawkins to import Africans into the West Indies 300 years ago!
This is the reason that progressives have erased Frederick Douglass. Douglass was pro-constitution, pro-capitalism, and pro-Founding Father. Frederick Douglass was the GOAT. A man like that naturally has to be erased from the history books. Obviously this is relevant today. Just as Douglass is mocking the Garrisonians for some of their notions that the union ought to be abolished over things such as the three-fifths or other clauses, he rightfully points out that the British Empire did in fact authorize slavery in the West Indies and by that reason the crown has to go. Buh bye.
And also the 13 colonies. Britain did that one too. Britain was all-in on slavery for hundreds of years, they had no room at any time to question us. They brought it here and then blamed us. Hypocrites. Looking outward it would be foolish to say that any union or government ought to be dissolved over what was done hundreds of years ago, because if we did that we would be abolishing every single government in existence. China, India, Russia, anywhere in Africa or South America - all of it would have to go.
This is a total troll and the Garrisonians deserved it. There's others in this speech, Douglass was definitely adept at trolling. This is a very fun read and I laughed out loud several times.
At least, that's my take. I think this speech was in part a lot of trolling.
Before people whine about white people owning slaves in the past, whine about black people owning slaves right now. There is still slavery in Africa today.
Let’s dissolve the African nations that captured blacks and sold them into slavery.
While we are at it, let’s dissolve the CURRECT nations in Africa who till practice slavery.
We the People are the slaves today.
Dissolve the Union.
Queen Elizabeth I and her government are long dead, thus I don’t see any reason for it to be dissolved. Also that happened upon her death in 1603.
the first slave owner in the US was a black; Indian tribes regularly raided for slaves - took whites blacks and other Indians. US Indian tribes should disband because they were slavers!
Britain was, to their credit, the first country on the planet to completely outlaw slavery and to actively fight against it.
What are some good references to show people about this?
That was decades later after they forced it on us.
Sacajewa - a Shoshone, the Lewis & Clark guide was captured in a raid and enslaved by the Crow (technically the Hidatsa - a Siouan people today consideed to be predecessors of the modern Crow.). Toussaint Charbonneau - her husband, purchased or won the Shoshone girl Sacagawea (Bird Woman) from the Crow (Hidatsa). The Crow (Hidatsa) had captured Sacagawea on one of their annual raiding and hunting parties to the west. I don’t think the Crow did these raids on other Indians just to take in the sights ! They did to express power and to take captives. I am also sure the weren’t the only tribes who did this.
whats Google?
All right. Well, if you tell someone “There are more slaves living in the world today than at any point in history, and it’s not white people that are doing it”, they might not listen to you. It’s not because they don’t believe you, it’s because they don’t care.
Isnt the narrative that slavery didn’t exist until America made it our founding policy?
Should the British Government be dissolved because they authorized slavery?
Should the Democrat Party be dissolved because they authorized slavery?
I think they won’t believe it.
Denial and disbelief are different things. One is caused by a willful lack of information, the other by a temporary one. There is no greater ignorance than by choice.
It is the narrative.
It would be easy to overcome this narrative though if more people embraced American history instead of embracing modernity so strongly.
“That was decades later after they forced it on us.”
The history books are full of incidents where soldiers, in red coats with bayonets, prodded poor defenseless colonists to bidding on slaves for sale at the markets in Boston, Philadelphia, Raleigh or Charleston.
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