[cuban leaf]

20% is rather a lot. It’s not a trivial event facing your parents and grandparents.

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Is it reasonable to consider that the response is what increased that number regarding things like what the governor did in NY. Not to mention people that didn’t get other needed medical treatments because of the response.

i.e. could it not be the response, rather than the virus, that increased those numbers?

[Owen]

Excess deaths were 25% above normal. 5 of the 25 were above the official Covid number. Those were the deaths from deferred treatments for other medical needs. Those were not official deferrals. People chose to stay away.