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To: Jonty30

I was thinking more of the 1920’s standards. Al Smith governed NY and ran for President on a grade 8 education.

The more education became universal at higher levels, the more expectations were modified. 4th grade used to guarantee a certain facility in reading, writing, and arithmetic.

The language entrance exams for Universities used to be quite rigorous. I doubt that there are a half-dozen high school graduates in the U.S. that could pass Cornell’s entrance examinations of the 1890’s. The combination of breadth and depth expected was phenomenal.


10 posted on 06/09/2021 3:20:39 AM PDT by Hieronymus
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To: Hieronymus

You can pick any standard you want and I believe that my point still applies. It takes a surprising little amount of work, if consistently done, to master material by the grade, for somebody,like this 13 year old, as long as that person treats it like a full time job.

I also agree that it was a mistake to make the assurance of graduating high school mandatory. Those unable to graduate should be trained in skilled labour if they cannot master a rigorous high school agenda. It has harmed us all.


11 posted on 06/09/2021 3:25:11 AM PDT by Jonty30 (Just because I coughed on you does not mean that I have covid. It means that we have covid. )
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To: Hieronymus

If you an extra 15 minutes/day, that’s about an extra grade of material every 6 years, approximately.


12 posted on 06/09/2021 3:27:48 AM PDT by Jonty30 (Just because I coughed on you does not mean that I have covid. It means that we have covid. )
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To: Hieronymus

If you an extra 15 minutes/day, that’s about an extra grade of material every 6 years, approximately.

Believe me, I wish I had understood that at his age.


14 posted on 06/09/2021 3:30:17 AM PDT by Jonty30 (Just because I coughed on you does not mean that I have covid. It means that we have covid. )
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To: Hieronymus

Academia today is more focused on money and less on education.


16 posted on 06/09/2021 3:34:35 AM PDT by Rlsau1
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To: Hieronymus

Correct. They now purposely misteach both reading and writing so as to set average and below average students back hideously.

It is in part to dumb down our citizenry and in part to keep with the old union phrase of not “killing the job”.


18 posted on 06/09/2021 4:10:44 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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