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How many times has the Pons-Fleischmann Anomalous Heating Event been replicated in peer reviewed journals?
LENR Forum ^ | June-July 2017 | Kevmo

Posted on 05/30/2021 11:42:20 PM PDT by Kevmo

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How does this help me find my missing socks?


21 posted on 05/31/2021 3:08:01 AM PDT by steve8714 (Evidently the Oxford comma is racist, sexist, or homophobic. You decide which.)
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Of all the bizarre, poorly formatted, migraine-inducing posts I have seen on FR in the past 20 years, this one takes the cake.


22 posted on 05/31/2021 5:40:29 AM PDT by Stingray51 ( )
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23 posted on 05/31/2021 6:00:50 AM PDT by Bratch
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I didn’t catch all of that. Could you repeat it?


24 posted on 05/31/2021 6:09:39 AM PDT by sauropod (Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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Is there an executive summary (fewer than 100,000 words) ?

ML/NJ


25 posted on 05/31/2021 7:12:39 AM PDT by ml/nj (DITCH MITCH !!)
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The answer to the question is “more than 153 times”. Probably hundreds of times by now.


26 posted on 05/31/2021 7:51:39 AM PDT by Kevmo (The tree of liberty is thirsty.)
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Not lookin at all that mess


27 posted on 05/31/2021 11:58:56 AM PDT by Az Joe (FREE CHAUVIN!)
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https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3967006/posts?page=9#9

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Buried in the 1st presentation (google) is this statement —
“There is a heated debate in the LENR community about the degree to which anomalous effects are already “proven”.
Our experience is the LENR community either can not teach or will not teach. Failure to share the best of what is known has impeded scientific progress.”

9 posted on 6/11/2021, 11:07:50 AM by plain talk
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Funny enough, we haven’t heard from the Google Team until 2-3 years after they had already shut down. They also tack on the bullshiite term “truly independent replication” and “reasonable” replication by “qualified experts”. They are all over the map on this thing.
They were obviously paranoid about what this would do to their careers.
How many times has the Pons-Fleischmann Anomalous Heating Event been replicated in peer reviewed journals?
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3963819/posts

11 posted on 6/11/2021, 11:12:20 AM by Kevmo (some things may be true even if Donald Trump said them. ~Jonathan Karl)
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28 posted on 06/12/2021 12:29:04 AM PDT by Kevmo (some things may be true even if Donald Trump said them. ~Jonathan Karl)
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To: All; y'all

Jed Rothwell wrote upthread:

Hot fusion skeptics who rarely if ever use calorimetry in their physics profession failed to replicate P&F. They proceeded from that to say that it was proof that LENR wasn’t real.

Actually, to be a little more historically accurate, they did not try to replicate P&F. They tried to replicate one aspect of P&F, which unfortunately, P&F themselves got wrong.

What they did in most cases was: set up an electrochemical cell with a palladium cathode and heavy water, and then look for neutrons. They did not look for excess heat, and they did not measure some critical parameters such as loading.

P&F reported neutrons, but most people soon concluded that part of their paper was wrong. Fleischmann himself thought it was a mistake. He told me that in person, at MIT.

Excess heat is the most critical parameter. It is the “principal signature of the reaction” as Fleischmann put it. If you don’t see excess heat, you don’t have cold fusion, so there is no point to looking for anything else. It is like fishing in a dry hole, as Ikegami put it.

The other mistake made by many hot fusion and high energy physicists was to do the experiment without consulting with electrochemists. They made many mistakes. Enough to eliminate any chance of success.

As I put it, they were trying to tune a piano with sledge hammer.

See p. 11: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RothwellJlessonsfro.pdf

Electrochemists who reviewed other experiments discovered similar errors, such as confusing the anode and the cathode. I suppose that if a group of electrochemists were to try to build a Tokomak plasma fusion reactor without consulting with plasma physicists, they would make similar mistakes.


29 posted on 07/11/2021 3:11:36 PM PDT by Kevmo (some things may be true even if Donald Trump said them. ~Jonathan Karl)
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