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To: palmer
There are legitimate concerns with overstimulated immune systems with the vaxes. But there are many worse cases with the disease and 1% die. And of course you can take actions to avoid getting the disease so everyone has to evaluate their own risk of that. In general older people will be better off getting vaccinated and younger better off without. But there's no hard and fast rule.

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There are medication protocols that cut the risk of death among the most vulnerable by 85%.

Since those infected and treated with medications then have immunity, that overall treatment outcome is MUCH BETTER than the 'vaccinated' who only tested for 2 months for which they claimed 95% efficacy. Those vaccinated can still get infected during those two months. There was just a 6 month follow up stating that more were infected after Pfizer's 2 month trial.

So 10K and they are intentionally not counting all the other break through infections because the CDC is only counting hospitalization/death 'breakthrough.'

C.D.C. Will Not Investigate Mild Infections in Vaccinated Americans (msn.com)

And then the risks for Covid 'vaccines' are worse than they are for HCQ and Ivermectin, type protocols.

There was never a need to get 'vaccinated' when safe, effective medications have been available all along.

Early Treatment Protocols (Collection of Covid-19 resources, treatment and prophylactic protocols)

96 posted on 05/30/2021 3:16:02 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote
So 10K and they are intentionally not counting all the other break through infections because the CDC is only counting hospitalization/death 'breakthrough.'

Yes, the CDC stopped counting breakthrough cases, only hospitalization and death: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html Shows 439 deaths so approximately 44,000 breakthrough cases since about 1% were fatal the last time they gave full numbers in April. But that's 44,000 breakthrough cases in the time we had about 5,000,000 total cases in US. We can't pretend the vaccines are perfect and there should be no breakthrough cases.

The danger as many have pointed out, is that vaccines may give people a false sense of confidence in protection.

And then the risks for Covid 'vaccines' are worse than they are for HCQ and Ivermectin, type protocols.

HCQ is an imnune suppressant and it stops the overreaction of the immune system in full blown COVID. It tequires other meds to actually treat the infection. Ivermectin is an immune system regulator as well as anti-viral. They are not silver bullets. Vaccines are not silver bullets, you can still get infected with the same numeric outcome as the non-vaccinated.

But the key point is that the vaccinated have had about 1% as many cases as non-vaccinated people.

Bottom line I am better off with the vax than getting COVID. However my chances of getting COVID unvaxed were very low. And getting lower. It's pretty obvious that pretty soon nobody else will need to get vaxxed as long as people of both pursasions, vaxed and unvaxed, don't take excessive risks and get the best treatments if they get the disease.

100 posted on 05/30/2021 8:06:06 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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